Moses said:
I don't want to change the thread, I am so sad of the Pope leaving,
Speaking of facts:
Muslims appreciate that the Pope did not recognize the invasion powers who invaded the Holy Land as a state until 1986, and Muslims deeply understand
the pressure he had from European goverments, almost exactly as the pressures now made against muslims by the anti-religion powers in the political regiemes of europe.
Muslims and Christians has many, so many intersection points among both religions. However, there is a critical differences [e.g Muslims believe that Jesus is God Messenger, not God son nor Trinity do exist...etc] and both DISLIKE the differnce happen. If you see something right, you dislike what you think it is wrong.
The Pope apologized for the jews abuot the discrimination happened to them in Europe. However, he did not apologize yet to the muslims for all the crusades wages against them, the courts of killing them after Spain re-conquesta by Catholics and many other staff. With a sure voice still Muslims deeply apprecaite the Pope actions and understand the pressures on him.
Will, let's assume he is the enemy of the muslims, they loves their enemy [Catholics are not the only onese who do so, even Athiests some times do the same thing]. So by all means Muslims unconditionally loves him, as He loves them too. Still the strong disgreements between both is another issue.
Once again, a point i see a must to be clarified and i hope i did. Apologize if i change the thread a bit our of track.
Don't worry, you haven't changed this thread, but you do have change my words. I said: it has been accurately demonstrated that nowadays muslim religion and muslim leaders dislike
Catholic religion. In fact, they call us the "unfaithful" (correct me, but I think the Coran refers to this word when talking about christians, if I am wrong sorry then). On the other hand, the head of Catholic Church and the Church itself
have forgotten all about the spanish Reconquist and this sort of
old troubles. It is muslim religion and muslims leaders who seem not to have forgotten it yet.
On the contrary, John Paul II has collaborated
joining each religion (recall Asis Assembly where every religious leaders of the world were invited by him to talk and to share about each religion,
he promoted the event) because he did think every faithful men thinks of the same. On the contrary, he collaborated providing
stability to the world, not like the leaders of muslim religion (we DO know that they promote instabilities across the entire world).
As a result John Paul II was a figure of humanity and comprehension, and by the way he did a lot to defeat comunism in Poland and make polish men free. Also he traveled to poor places, where
no politician want to go, where poorest and undefended people live, giving them hopeness and listening them.
All of these was closed to an extraordinary sense of humor.
Don't forget, Moses, there is an essential difference as far as how Catholic (and occidental) church views the World, how we try to built over it peacefully,
and on the contrary how muslim relgious leaders see the world, reinstauring pain and fear, actively destroying the equilibrium in world, and recalling old battles which have been forgotten in occident a lot of time ago.
Now is when Evo closes the thread. I apoligize if I have said something non political correct, but I feel it is neccesary to use the Democracy to say the truth, no matter who is offended and no matter how it sounds. I am not going to be dishonest with myself saying stupidities only for giving a pretty appearance of tolerance. I have started this thread and I think it is needed a clarification and underline the labour of the Pope John Paul II also by comparing with another people who has apparently the same position and by the way a greater number of believers, and who haven't made
nothing positive for improving the life in this planet.
"Al pan pan, y al vino vino". or
"Las cosas claras y el chocolate espeso", are two adages in spanish which mean "the more clarified what is talked, the better"
