RLC Circuit: Calculating Current I(ω)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the current I(ω) in an RLC circuit, focusing on the impedance and its components. Participants are exploring the relationship between resistance, inductance, and capacitance in the context of alternating current.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for impedance Z and express uncertainty about adding R, L, and C due to differing phase angles. Some suggest using complex impedances to account for these phase differences. Others inquire about the application of complex numbers in analyzing RLC circuits, particularly in parallel configurations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their understanding of complex numbers and their relevance to the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider phase shifts in reactive components, and some guidance has been offered regarding the use of complex impedances.

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Participants note varying levels of familiarity with complex numbers, which may influence their ability to engage with the problem effectively. There is also a mention of the need for clarity on how to apply these concepts specifically to RLC circuits in parallel.

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Homework Statement



Write the current I(ω) for the RLC circuit above

Homework Equations



I = V/Z

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe Z should be Z = ( 1/R + 1/XL + 1/XC)-1

which would give Z = ( 1/R + 1/(ωL) + ωC )-1

and I is simply emf / Z


but I don't think you can add R L and C like this since they have different phase angles.


Help?
 
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VictorWutang said:

Homework Statement



Write the current I(ω) for the RLC circuit above

Homework Equations



I = V/Z

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe Z should be Z = ( 1/R + 1/XL + 1/XC)-1

which would give Z = ( 1/R + 1/(ωL) + ωC )-1

and I is simply emf / Z


but I don't think you can add R L and C like this since they have different phase angles.


Help?

You are correct that phase angle must be taken into account. Rather than use reactances (XL, XC), have you considered using complex impedances (ZL, ZC) which take into account the phase angles automatically?
 
Oh I see... in that case

I know for RL and RC circuits in series

ZL = √ R2 + ω2L2

and

ZC = √ R2 + 1 / (ω2C2)

but I don't understand how I would use this for RLC in parallel. Help?
 
Are you familiar with complex numbers?
 
I think I'm familiar enough that i'll understand whatever you explain using them.EDIT* sorry, I realized that was a little vague. Yes, I understand basic use of complex numbers but have not taken a college level class on them yet.
 
VictorWutang said:
I think I'm familiar enough that i'll understand whatever you explain using them.


EDIT* sorry, I realized that was a little vague. Yes, I understand basic use of complex numbers but have not taken a college level class on them yet.

Okay, well you already know that there is a phase shift of 90 degrees between the voltage and current for reactive components; For the capacitor the current leads the voltage by 90 degrees, while for the inductor it lags the voltage by 90 degrees. Complex numbers are convenient to use here because one can consider the imaginary portion to be "at right angles to" the real portion of a complex number. This is made obvious when you plot the numbers on a complex plane, since the imaginary axis is at right angles to the real axis.

So, if you write the impedances as complex values, then you can use all the usual formulas that you use for resistances but with the complex impedances. Obviously you need to use number arithmetic in the manipulations, but otherwise it's just plug and chug with the formulas.

For capacitors and inductors the impedances have the same magnitude as their reactances (That is, reactance is the magnitude of the complex impedance). To find the impedance of these components just replace ω with jω in the reactance expressions. Here "j" is the imaginary value ##\sqrt{-1}##.
 

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