Rolling cylinder on surface with friction (initially slipping)

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The problem involves a solid cylinder that starts moving along a flat surface without rotating and transitions to rolling without slipping due to friction. Key parameters include the coefficient of friction, radius, mass, and initial velocity of the cylinder. The questions raised pertain to the time taken to achieve rolling without slipping, the total energy change during this transition, and the behavior of the cylinder on an incline.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using equations related to force, time, and energy to analyze the motion of the cylinder. There are attempts to apply the work-energy theorem and to write equations for both linear and angular motion. Some participants question the understanding of the transition from slipping to rolling without slipping.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various approaches to the problem, with some participants offering insights on the equations to use. One participant indicates they have solved the problem, while others continue to explore the necessary conditions for rolling without slipping.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem's parameters and are discussing the implications of friction and motion without providing definitive solutions. The original poster expresses confusion about their calculations, indicating potential gaps in understanding the transition between motion states.

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Hi, I'm trying to solve this, but I keep getting both sides of the equation to be the same >.<
A solid cylinder is initially moving along a flat surface without rotating. Due to the action of friction, it eventually begins rolling without slipping. The coefficient of friction is 0.22, the radius of the cylinder is 0.5 m, its mass is 2.7 kg and its initial center of mass velocity is 1.5 m/s

Questions: a.) How long does it take to reach a rolling without slipping condition? b.) What is the total energy change of the system between the initial condition and the establishment of rolling without slipping? c.) Will it still roll without slip on an incline?

I tried using FΔt=mΔv and d=v[itex]_{0}[/itex]t+1/2at[itex]^{2}[/itex]so i got the distance for slipping d=(v[itex]_{i}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]-v[itex]_{f}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex])/(2μg)
And then I did 1/2mv[itex]_{i}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex] = fd + 1/2mv[itex]_{f}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex] + 1/2Iω[itex]^{2}[/itex] I kept getting the same answer no matter what formula or approach I use. I have no clue how to do this. Please help. Thank you :)
 
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hi vraeleragon! :smile:
vraeleragon said:
I tried using FΔt=mΔv and

no, it starts at slipping without rolling, goes though slipping with rolling, and ends with rolling without slipping

use the work energy theorem …

 
The force of friction decelerates translation of the CM and the torque of friction (with respect to the CM) accelerates rotation. Write up both equations and solve for the linear velocity v and angular velocity ω in terms of time. Find t when the condition of pure rolling applies (do you know it?).

ehild
 
oh i forgot to say that i solved it. thank you.
 

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