Rotating disk find the radial and transverse velocity

In summary: The radial component is always positive and the tangential component is always negative. In the case of a spinning object, the radial and tangential speeds are related by the following equation:F = mv^2/r.The Attempt at a SolutionIn summary, the student is trying to find the velocity of a disk that is spinning about a center. They start by understanding the physics of motion and energy conservation. They then use this information to find the radial and tangential velocities.
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nysnacc
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



rXF ??

The Attempt at a Solution



T= 6 N (r =1)
T = 12 N (r=2)
 
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So far so good - do you have a question?
Please describe how you are thinking about the problem ... given the initial condition, what do you think will happen?
Why is it important that the string is elastic (how would you model the string?)
 
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There is a lot going on in this problem and we have to make some (hopefully correct o_O assumptions).
First the disk is spinning about the centre at 1 meter with a tangential speed of 4 m/s.
Then it motions out to 2 meter and they want both the radial and tangential speed when it is spinning about the centre at this distance.
What comes to mind is maybe trying energy conservation?
Energy is stored in the elastic as it is stretched, thankfully it obeys Hooke's law!
Also the tensions at the various radii supplies the centripetal forces for the spinning motion.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
So far so good - do you have a question?
Please describe how you are thinking about the problem ... given the initial condition, what do you think will happen?
Why is it important that the string is elastic (how would you model the string?)

I mean what does those contribute to the finding of v?

Can I just use F= m V2 / r which i put F = T at 0.25m, and r = 0.25m ... so that V is the Vtheta??
 
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andrevdh said:
Energy is stored in the elastic as it is stretched, thankfully it obeys Hooke's law!
Conserving mechanical energy is a good starting point and gives you one equation. You need to find two quantities so you need a second equation. What else is conserved? Hint: The force on the mass is along the radius.
 
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nysnacc said:
I mean what does those contribute to the finding of v?

Can I just use F= m V2 / r which i put F = T at 0.25m, and r = 0.25m ... so that V is the Vtheta??
mv^2/r is the centripetal force needed to keep the disk in circular motion... what could be providing the centripetal force, and does it provide that much?
Note: the other two are jumping ahead. You need to understand the motion before deciding on what laws to use, and what assumptions are valid.
Nysnac's assumptions may not be valid, and how kuruman's modification works will depend on that.
So let's start with understanding the physics...
... post #2 asks a bunch of questions, please answer them.
 
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When an object, p, moves along a curved path its velocity v can be broken into two components, a radial component vr and a tangential component vt
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1. What is a rotating disk and how is it used in finding radial and transverse velocity?

A rotating disk is a flat, circular object that is used in experiments to measure the velocity of a moving object. It works by attaching a marker to the disk and tracking its movement as the disk rotates, which can then be used to calculate the radial and transverse velocity of the object being studied.

2. What is radial velocity and how is it calculated using a rotating disk?

Radial velocity is the component of an object's velocity that is directed towards or away from a fixed point, usually the center of the rotating disk. It is calculated by measuring the distance between the object and the center of rotation at different points in time, and then dividing by the time interval.

3. How is transverse velocity different from radial velocity?

Transverse velocity is the component of an object's velocity that is perpendicular to the radial velocity. In other words, it is the velocity that is directed tangent to the circular path of the object's motion. It is calculated by measuring the distance between the object and the center of rotation at different points in time, and then dividing by the time interval.

4. Can a rotating disk be used to find the velocity of any moving object?

Yes, a rotating disk can be used to find the velocity of any moving object as long as the object's movement can be tracked and measured accurately. This method is commonly used in experiments involving rotating machinery, fluid mechanics, and celestial objects.

5. Are there any limitations to using a rotating disk to find radial and transverse velocity?

One limitation of using a rotating disk is that it assumes the object being studied is moving in a circular path. Additionally, the accuracy of the results may be affected by factors such as the speed of rotation, the precision of measurements, and external forces acting on the object. It is important to carefully consider these factors when using a rotating disk to find velocity.

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