Rotation vs Translation for elbow joint

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The discussion centers on the concepts of rotation and translation as they apply to a beam pivoting at a hinge. When the string is cut, the beam experiences both rotation around the hinge and translation of its center of mass (CM). The movement of the CM, even while tracing a circular path, qualifies as translation. To achieve pure rotation without translation, the elbow joint must be raised and moved to the right, preventing any lateral movement of the CM.

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If I were to cut the string and let the board move, I know I would get rotation. But, since the center of mass of the beam is moving as well (in a circle) could I also say that the board is translating once the string is cut?
 
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Yes.
Assuming the beam is free to pivot about the hinge at its left end, it would both rotate and translate.
 
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.Scott said:
Yes.
Assuming the beam is free to pivot about the hinge at its left end, it would both rotate and translate.
So even though the beam will be tracing a large circle around the hinge (or more likely swinging back and forth) we can call this translation? My reasoning was because the center of mass of the board is moving as it swings. Is that correct?
 
.Scott said:
Yes.
Assuming the beam is free to pivot about the hinge at its left end, it would both rotate and translate.
The Centre of Mass of the board would drop and move to the left so that would be looked upon as translation. To avoid this, you would need to (appropriately) raise the elbow joint and move it to the right. Then you would have only rotation
 
sophiecentaur said:
The Centre of Mass of the board would drop and move to the left so that would be looked upon as translation. To avoid this, you would need to (appropriately) raise the elbow joint and move it to the right. Then you would have only rotation
Even though not all movement vectors of the object are moving in space by the same amount in a given direction, we can still call this translation?
 
physics gal said:
Even though not all movement vectors of the object are moving in space by the same amount in a given direction, we can still call this translation?
Why not? The translation doesn't need to be in a straight line or in a chosen direction. We are talking in terms of translation of the CM.
 
physics gal said:
If I were to cut the string and let the board move, I know I would get rotation. But, since the center of mass of the beam is moving as well (in a circle) could I also say that the board is translating once the string is cut?
Yes, you can decompose the same motion into rotation and translation in different ways.
 
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