Rotational Dynamics Homework: Find Initial Angular Mom & Ang Vel When Bar Vert

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics homework problem involving a uniform bar hinged at one end. The initial angular momentum is calculated as 3g/2L, while the challenge lies in determining the angular velocity when the bar is vertical. The user attempts to apply energy conservation principles but struggles with incorporating linear kinetic energy correctly. Clarification is sought on the moment of inertia, particularly the distinction between inertia about the center of mass and the end of the rod. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately solving part b of the problem.
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Homework Statement


A uniform bar AB of length L is freely hinged at one end A and released from a horizontal position.
a) Find the initial angular momentum. Ans: 3g/2L
b)Find the angular velocity when the bar is vertical. Ans: (3g/L)^(1/2)

Homework Equations


momentum of inertial of a rod through end =(ML^2)/3

The Attempt at a Solution


I have no problem with part a, I did it like this
Let N be the moment, I be the inertia of moment, a be the angular acceleration.
N = Ia
mg(L/2) = ML^2 /3 a
a= 3g/2L

But I have problem with part b, I tried to do it with energy conservation
Kr + Kt = PE
Iw^2 /2 + mw^2(L^2)/2 = mgL/2
1/3 L w^2 + w^2L = g

I would be correct if I neglect the linear KE, but I don't think it should be neglected, is my method of doing part b wrong?
 
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For rotation about a fixed axis, A, the total KE of the object is (1/2)IAω2.

It is possible to express this as KE = (1/2)Mvcm2 + (1/2)Icmω2. But this would not be helpful for this problem.
 
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TSny said:
For rotation about a fixed axis, A, the total KE of the object is (1/2)IAω2.

It is possible to express this as KE = (1/2)Mvcm2 + (1/2)Icmω2. But this would not be helpful for this problem.

Thanks. what is Icm?
 
cm is center of mass
 
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Moment of inertia, I, depends on the origin. The moment of inertia about the center of the rod is different than the moment of inertia about one end of the rod.
 
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