Rotational Inertia: Calc. & Guidance Needed

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The discussion revolves around calculating the rotational inertia of a system composed of multiple disks, with a specific focus on applying the parallel axis theorem. The original poster expresses difficulty in extending their understanding from a single rod to a series of disks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to calculate the moment of inertia (MoI) for individual disks and how to sum their contributions. Questions arise regarding the application of the parallel axis theorem and the distances involved for each disk.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on the application of formulas and the parallel axis theorem. There is a recognition of the complexity involved, with multiple interpretations of how to approach the summation of the disks' contributions being discussed.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the number of disks and their respective distances from the axis of rotation, which affects the calculations. Some participants are questioning their assumptions about the distances and the contributions of each disk to the total moment of inertia.

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The figure shows an arrangement of 15 identical disks that have been glued together in a rod-like shape of length L = 1.6900 m and (total) mass M = 104.0 mg. The arrangement can rotate about a perpendicular axis through its central disk at point O. (a) What is the rotational inertia of the arrangement about that axis? Give your answer to four significant figures. (b) If we approximated the arrangement as being a uniform rod of mass M and length L, what percentage error would we make in using the formula in Table 10-2e to calculate the rotational inertia?
Relevant Equations
I = 1/12 ML^2
I = 1/2 mr^2
This question is ridiculously complex for me. I know how to find the Inertia if it was a rod

##I =\frac{1}{12} ML^{2} = \frac{1}{12}(0.000104)(1.6900)^2 =0.00002475 kg * m^2##

To find the Inertia for the individual disks I am having trouble. Not sure how to add them all up together. Guidance would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Riman643 said:
To find the Inertia for the individual disks I am having trouble
Consider the nth disk from O, to the right, say.
What is its MoI about its own centre?
How far is its centre from O?
Using the parallel axis theorem, what is its MoI about O?
 
I think I get where you are going. Every disk will be:

##I = \frac{1}{2} mr^{2} = \frac{1}{2} (\frac{0.000104}{15})(\frac{1.6900}{\frac{15}{2}})^{2} = 0.000000011 kg * m^2##

Then using the parallel axis theorem it would be:
##I = \frac{1}{2}mr^{2} + md^{2}##

but which disk do I use for the ##md^{2}## part? And would the distance to let's say the one to the right and left of the center bed twice the radius?
 
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Riman643 said:
Every disk will be
How many radii make up length L?
Riman643 said:
would the distance to let's say the one to the right and left of the center bed twice the radius?
Yes. What about the next ones along?
 
haruspex said:
How many radii make up length L?

15? Would that then make the parallel axis theorem in this particular case:

##I_{O} = 15(\frac{1}{2}mr^{2}) + md^{2}##
haruspex said:
Yes. What about the next ones along?

The next ones along would be 4 times the length of the radius. So I should use the furthest one away? 14 times the length of the radius?
 
Riman643 said:
15?
No, try again.
Riman643 said:
The next ones along would be 4 times the length of the radius.
Yes.
Riman643 said:
So I should use the furthest one away?
No, each makes the contribution it makes. Sum the series.
 
haruspex said:
No, try again.
Oops. It's 30 that will make up the entire length

haruspex said:
No, each makes the contribution it makes. Sum the series.
So would a correct formula with a series of distances be:

##I_{O} = 15mr^{2} + 2mr^{2}(2 + 4 + 6 + 8 +10 +12 + 14)##
 
Riman643 said:
Oops. It's 30 that will make up the entire lengthSo would a correct formula with a series of distances be:

##I_{O} = 15mr^{2} + 2mr^{2}(2 + 4 + 6 + 8 +10 +12 + 14)##
Close...
There's something you left out on the 2, 4, 6 etc.
 
haruspex said:
Close...
There's something you left out on the 2, 4, 6 etc.
Oops. took out the square when I took out ##r^{2}##. I got the answer right for the first part. But for some reason I am struggling getting the percentage with the rod wrong. For the rod I get ##24.75 mg * m^{2}## and for the actual Inertia I get ##25.02 mg * m^{2}##. Then I take ##(1 - \frac{24.75}{25.02}) * 100 = 1.067 %##. Not sure what I am doing wrong with that.
 

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