Rotational inertia - globes connected by a thin rod

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The problem involves calculating the rotational inertia of a system consisting of two globes connected by a thin rod. The globes have specific masses and radii, and the rod has its own mass and length. The system is designed to rotate around an axis located at the midpoint of the rod.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the appropriate formulas for calculating the moment of inertia for both the globes and the rod, considering their respective mass distributions. There are questions about the application of the parallel axis theorem and the correct setup for the rod's moment of inertia.

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Participants are actively exploring different approaches to calculate the moment of inertia. Some have provided hints and formulas, while others are questioning specific terms and their origins in the calculations. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correct interpretation of the formulas and their application to the problem.

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There is uncertainty regarding the treatment of the globes as point masses versus solid bodies, and how to correctly apply the formulas for the rod's moment of inertia given the rotation axis. Participants are also navigating the implications of the problem's constraints and the provided parameters.

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Homework Statement
Finding the rotational inertia
Relevant Equations
I=∑m*r^2
Problem Statement: Finding the rotational inertia
Relevant Equations: I=∑m*r^2

A rigid body of 2 massive globes with homogenous mass distribution and a thin rod is connecting the 2 globes. The globes has radius R1 = 0.18 m and R2 =0.28 m and masses m1=193 kg and m2=726 kg. The thin rod has the mass ms=10kg and the length L=0.88 m. THe body can rotate frictionless around the rotation axis in the middle of the thin rod.

a) Calculate the the body's overall inertiamoment and show that the inertiamoment is I=476 kgm^2

my calculations are m1*(1/2*L+r1)^2+m2*(1/2*L+r2)^2 and i doubt if this is even correct and can't tell how the inertiamoment of the rod would look. Ignore the F(force)
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Hint: Don't treat the spheres as if they were point masses. (Think parallel axis theorem.)
 
naji0044 said:
cant tell how the inertiamoment of the rod would look
You should have a standard formula for the MoI of a uniform stick about its centre. Similarly for a uniform solid sphere.
 
okay so for a solid sphere i use 2/5*m*r^2 and for the rod it is 1/12*m*L^2?
 
naji0044 said:
okay so for a solid sphere i use 2/5*m*r^2 and for the rod it is 1/12*m*L^2?
Yes, about their respective centers.
 
Okay so you use the formula I=Icm+Md^2 and therefore:
2/5*m1*r1^2+m1*(r1+1/2*L)^2 + 2/5*m2*r2^2+m2*(-r2-1/2*L)^2 + 1/12*m3*L+m3*1
 
naji0044 said:
m3*1
Where does this term come from?
The rest is fine.
 
haruspex said:
Where does this term come from?
The rest is fine.
haruspex said:
honestly i am
Where does this term come from?
The rest is fine.
 
I am not sure how to calculate the rod when the rotation axis is right on the middle of it
 
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naji0044 said:
I am not sure how to calculate the rod when the rotation axis is right on the middle of it
That's what the ##\frac 1{12}mL^2## formula gives you. There is nothing to add in this case.
 
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