Rotational/Linear motion & friction

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A 2.4 kg block on a 30° slope is connected to a solid drum and accelerates down the slope at 1.2 m/s². The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of friction between the block and the slope, with participants analyzing the forces and torques involved. The approach includes using free-body diagrams and the work-energy theorem, but there is confusion about the drum's motion and how to incorporate displacement or velocity. Participants suggest using F = ma and torque equations to solve the problem effectively. The conversation emphasizes the need to clarify the system's dynamics for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement



A 2.4 kg block rests on a 30° slope and is attached by a string of negligible mass to a solid drum of mass 0.80 kg and radius 5.0 cm, as shown in Fig. 10.29. When released, the block accelerates down the slope at 1.2 m/s2. What is the coefficient of friction between block and slope?

Homework Equations



Ff=mu*N

a=alpha*r

Torque=I*alpha


The Attempt at a Solution



Ok the first thing I did was draw a free-body diagram of the block and the drum. I have Fnet=mg-Tension-mu*Fnormal then and set Tension=torque and got T=1/2*Mdrum*a and put that back into the original equation and solved for mu, but I didn't get the right answer. Is this even the right way to do this?
 
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Nick_L said:
A 2.4 kg block rests on a 30° slope and is attached by a string of negligible mass to a solid drum of mass 0.80 kg and radius 5.0 cm, as shown in Fig. 10.29. When released, the block accelerates down the slope at 1.2 m/s2. What is the coefficient of friction between block and slope?

I don't get it … what's the drum doing? :confused:

is it rotating on a fixed horizontal axis, with the string unwinding, or on a fixed vertical axis, or is it sliding down the hill on its base?
 
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ok … rotating on a fixed horizontal axis, presumably with a frictionless axle, and with the string unwinding …

so use the work-energy theorem … work done = energy lost, using the mass of the object and the moment of inertia of the drum :wink:
 
Ok so I would have Ffriction*dcos(30)=1/2*massbox*v2+1/2I*omega2? If that's right it makes sense, but how would I find displacement or velocity when I only have the acceleration?
 
Nick_L said:
Ok so I would have Ffriction*dcos(30)=1/2*massbox*v2+1/2I*omega2? If that's right it makes sense, but how would I find displacement or velocity when I only have the acceleration?

(you left out gravity)

sorry, I missed the acceleration :redface:

in that case, just use F = ma and torque = Iα and slug it out! :smile:
 
Alright, thanks for the help :biggrin:
 
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