Rotational Motion Homework: Hoop Rolling on 15 Deg Incline

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A hoop rolling at 3.3 m/s reaches a 15-degree incline, and the discussion focuses on calculating how far it travels up the incline and the time taken to descend. The conservation of energy equations are used to determine the height reached (yf) and the distance traveled, with initial calculations yielding a height of 1.1 m. Participants clarify that the relationship between linear velocity (v) and angular velocity (ω) must be included in the equations, and the angle should be calculated in degrees. Confusion arises regarding the radius of the hoop, but it's noted that the radius is irrelevant for calculating time and distance. The average speed of the hoop remains constant while ascending and descending the incline.
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Homework Statement


A hoop rolling on a horizontal surface with a speed v=3.3m/s when it reaches a 15 deg incline.How far up the incline does it go?How long will it be on the incline before it reaches the botttom?


Homework Equations


I=mr2
conservation energy going up=2gyf=r2+vi2
conservation energy going down=2gyi=r\omega2+v2
yf=sin(15)
circumference=2r\pi=8.5m


The Attempt at a Solution

i used the conservation of energy equation and solved for r getting r=1.36m. I had my calculator in radian mode not sure what mode i should have had it in. Then i plugged the radius back in and got yf=.65m , sin(15) was also .65m so hypotenuse =1m. Then i used conservation of energy down equation and solved for [iex]\omega[/itex] getting \omega=2rad/s i found how many radians the hoop went through by noting that the hypotenuse was 1m long so 1/8.5(2\pi)=.74 rad
so \omega=.74rad/t=.37s
 
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pb23me said:
I=mr2
Good.
conservation energy going up=2gyf=r2+vi2
Rethink this. You're missing an ω2. (Check the units of each term.)

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b] i used the conservation of energy equation and solved for r getting r=1.36m.
The radius is not given and could be anything. (That should tip you off that something's wrong with your conservation equation.)

Hint: The hoop is rolling without slipping, so how are v and ω related?
 
oh ok i forgot to put the\omega in so it should be (r\omega)2+v2=2gyf so yf=1.1m and distance up =1.7m I am confused about what mode to have my calculator in? rads or degs?
 
pb23me said:
oh ok i forgot to put the\omega in so it should be (r\omega)2+v2=2gyf so yf=1.1m
Good.
and distance up =1.7m I am confused about what mode to have my calculator in? rads or degs?
Since the angle is given in degrees, use the degree mode.
 
oh...that makes sense haha
 
ok so i used the equation 2gyf=r^2+vi^2 solved for yf and got yf=1.1m so sin(15)=1.1/h hypotenuse=.43m I am getting stuck on the last part now,solving for the time.I think i need the radius of the loop but can't seem to figure it out...
 
pb23me said:
ok so i used the equation 2gyf=r^2+vi^2 solved for yf and got yf=1.1m so sin(15)=1.1/h hypotenuse=.43m
Careful with your arithmetic.
I am getting stuck on the last part now,solving for the time.I think i need the radius of the loop but can't seem to figure it out...
You won't be able to figure out the radius, but luckily its irrelevant. Hint: What's average speed of the hoop as it goes up (or down) the ramp?
 
Ok hypotenuse =4.25m and I thought the speed going up would be different than the speed going down because the hoop has an initial velocity going up.
 
Nevermind that the speeds are the same
 
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