Run through the steps of this division

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression \(\frac{2(x-1)^2 e^{-x}}{1-x}\) and understanding the division of algebraic expressions, particularly focusing on the role of factoring versus expanding terms.

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  • Participants explore whether it is necessary to expand the numerator and discuss the implications of factoring in the context of division. Questions arise about simplifying expressions like \(\frac{x-1}{1-x}\) and how similar approaches apply to the original problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about simplification and factoring. Some guidance has been offered regarding the cancellation of terms, but there is still exploration of how these reductions affect the overall expression.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of algebraic manipulation, particularly in the context of homework constraints that may limit the methods allowed for simplification.

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Homework Statement



Please could someone run through the steps of this division ((2(x-1)^2) e^-x)/(1-x)



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is it necessary to multiply out this bracket?...im quite confused.

thanks for help
 
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Not only is it not necessary to expand the product in the numerator, it is undesirable to do so. When you divide algebraic expressions, you want them to be factored. So let me ask you something, how do you simplify the following?

[tex]\frac{x-1}{1-x}[/tex]
 
to be honest I am not sure... I have looked at a similar problem (x+1)/(x-1) and understand that the aim is to cancel the denominator by writing it above and + 2 to make it the numerator

therefore x - 1 + 2 / x-1

so i can see how that becomes 1 + 2/(x-1)

for some reason i do the same with this and I am not getting the correct answer.
 
cabellos6 said:
to be honest I am not sure... I have looked at a similar problem (x+1)/(x-1) and understand that the aim is to cancel the denominator by writing it above and + 2 to make it the numerator

That is not a similar problem. Go back to the problem I asked you about, and factor -1 out of the denominator. What does the quotient simplify to?
 
ok so that then becomes (x-1) / (-1)(-1+x),

which becomes 1/(-1)(1)
therefore -1 ?
 
Yes. And that's a piece of the problem you posted in the beginning.

You have:

[tex]\frac{2(x-1)^2e^{-x}}{1-x}=\frac{2(x-1)(x-1)e^{-x}}{1-x}[/tex]

Do you see where you can make a reduction, using what you have just figured out?
 
ok so the (x-1)(x-1)/1-x reduces to +1?
 
No. How would that happen? You just figured out that (x-1)/(1-x) reduces to -1.
 
i gather I am looking at the (x-1)(x-1)/ (-1)(-1+x) cancelling to leave -1.

then = -2e^-x ??
 
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cabellos6 said:
i gather I am looking at the (x-1)(x-1)/ (-1)(-1+x) cancelling to leave -1.

How are you getting that? The (-1+x) on the bottom cancels with one of the factors of (x-1) on the top. After the cancellation, there's still one left!

then = -2e^-x ??

Nope.
 
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does it become -2(x-1)e^-x

(-2x + 2)e^-x

= -2xe^-x + 2e^-x
 
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Yes, that's it.
 
  • #13
Thanks very much. Sorry for dragging you through that.
 

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