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Chinese warships have made their first port call in Iran, marking a significant development in military cooperation between the two nations. This event coincides with U.S. and Canadian jets intercepting Russian aircraft, highlighting ongoing tensions in international airspace. The discussion reflects a broader sentiment that such military maneuvers are routine and often serve as provocations rather than genuine tests of defense capabilities. Participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of these displays of military strength, suggesting they are more for show than a demonstration of real power. Concerns are raised regarding the potential for China and Russia to form a stronger alliance, which could pose a long-term challenge to Western influence. The dialogue also touches on the implications of military spending and the evolving geopolitical landscape, particularly in relation to U.S. defense capabilities compared to those of Russia and China. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexities of international relations, the historical context of military posturing, and the potential for future instability as nations navigate their strategic interests.
  • #121
China just made yet another provocative move in the disputed South China Sea, according to Business Insider
http://news.yahoo.com/china-just-landed-first-plane-192200315.html

On January 4th, Vietnam formally accused China of violating its sovereignty and a recent confidence-building pact on Saturday by landing a plane on an airstrip Beijing built on an artificial island in a contested part of the South China Sea, according to Reuters.
 
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I don't see how landing a plane on a runway is any more provocative than building a runway in the first place.
Why would they build a runway if there was no plan to use it?
(I gather it was a civilian aircraft which landed, although that's probably not very relevant.)
 
  • #123
"Currently five countries with competing claims in the region have built airstrips in the contested Spratly Islands."

I bet you won't see sensationalist articles about those other countries though. These articles are so amazingly biased. Compared to the damage the US has done to world-stability, those artificial islands are doing next to nothing.

A breakdown of the US moral code:
Morally justified and necessary for world stability: What we and our allies do
Heinous acts of brutality detrimental to world stability: What everyone else does
 
  • #124
HomogenousCow said:
"Currently five countries with competing claims in the region have built airstrips in the contested Spratly Islands."

I bet you won't see sensationalist articles about those other countries though. These articles are so amazingly biased. Compared to the damage the US has done to world-stability, those artificial islands are doing next to nothing...
What in particular do you find sensational or biased about this Reuters article? Do you have a preferred reference on the disputes over the islands in the S. China sea?
 
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Chinese military aircraft trespass into Japan, Korea airspace
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...pass-into-Japan-Korea-airspace/6781454430627/

SEOUL, Feb. 2 (UPI) -- Two Chinese military aircraft flew into South Korean and Japanese airspace, and Japan's Self-Defense Force fighter jets scrambled to intercept the planes.
The South Korea-identified airspace overlaps with China's, and China did not notify Seoul of its flight plans, South Korea said.
The two planes flew southwest of South Korea's Jeju Island, and after leaving KADIZ entered Japan's Air Defense Identification Zone, or JADIZ.

So now Japan and Korea will have to reciprocate.
 
  • #128
I'm beginning to see a pattern developing here. :frown:
 
  • #129
1oldman2 said:
I'm beginning to see a pattern developing here. :frown:
Yeah, look on Jane's and see who else is buying Sukhoi's .
 
  • #130
Russia wants to fly over US with advanced digital camera
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-seeks-fly-over-us-high-powered-digital-083532712--politics.html

"One of the advantages of the Open Skies Treaty is that information — imagery — that is taken is shared openly among all the treaty parties," she said at a joint hearing of the House Foreign Affairs and Armed Services committees in December. "So one of the advantages with the Open Skies Treaty is that we know exactly what the Russians are imaging, because they must share the imagery with us."
 
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HomogenousCow said:
"Currently five countries with competing claims in the region have built airstrips in the contested Spratly Islands."
I had no idea.

China's claim seems bogus to me. But since the most powerful nations consistently disregard international "law," it appears that force of arms will carry the day.
 
  • #134
Quiz: Without looking at a map or other aid, how close were the recent NATO military exercises in Estonia to St. Petersburg?
 
  • #135
Hornbein said:
In 2003 US warplanes flew over Indonesia. It was front-page news there. The US claimed it was an accident.
Not the same thing. The US asked permission, and the US and Indonesia relationship is not hostile.
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jul/05/world/fg-indo5
 
  • #136
Hornbein said:
Quiz: Without looking at a map or other aid, how close were the recent NATO military exercises in Estonia to St. Petersburg?
Relevant quiz: how many times have NATO forces transgressed the Russian mainland, and how many times in the 20th and 21st centuries have Russian forces invaded eastern europe, attacked Finland in division strength, attacked Georgia, annexed territory, cyber attacked Baltic neighbors?
 
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Astronuc said:
... Beijing Claims
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Well, the Guardian claims that Beijing claims. Other sources, as reference in the article, claim China does not yet have the capability.
 

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