Sales vs. Design....Ohm's Law vs. Power

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The discussion centers on the technical implications of using heaters designed for specific voltage and wattage, highlighting a conflict between sales claims and engineering principles. Sales representatives suggest that connecting heaters to lower voltages won't damage them, while engineers emphasize that this could lead to increased amperage and potential issues. The conversation underscores the importance of understanding both Ohm's Law and the Power equation, clarifying that while both are correct, they apply differently based on the conditions of the circuit. Engineers argue that safety should take precedence over power considerations, noting that lower voltage results in lower current and power, albeit at reduced efficiency. Ultimately, the fixed resistance of the heater plays a crucial role in determining the relationship between voltage, current, and power in operation.
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We manufacture heaters. Simple heaters that are designed for a specific voltage, for a specific wattage, thus a fixed resistance and the corresponding amperage. However, sales guys preach that it is OK to hook up the heater to a lower voltage without damaging it. They claim the voltage is lower thus the amperage is lower so although the heater will not function optimally, it will not be damaged.

My head says that is correct for Ohm's law but if you look at the Power equation the amperage would be more at the lower voltage thus a problem. Our design uses the power equation when building the heater circuit thus the higher wattage produces the lower amperage. But when designing dual circuit heaters we always design to the higher voltage which does not jive with the power equation but makes sense for Ohm's Law.

I see a fixed resistance, although producing heat, the resistance is what it is.I have two groups of people living under two separate equations and I am looking for clarity on which one I should follow for our product.
 
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At fixed resistance, lower voltage means lower current and lower power. The power equation doesn't apply because the power isn't constant.
 
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Safety before power.

With a fixed resistance the power will drop with voltage. That's safe, but potentially a little cool.

Power = Voltage times Current. (P=VI) Since we know from Ohm's law that I=V/R; P=VV/R or

P = V2/R

So both equations are correct. But the power level is only for the rated voltage.
 
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They claim the voltage is lower thus the amperage is lower so although the heater will not function optimally, it will not be damaged.

They are correct, although the resistance is also "a bit" lower since the wire is cooler.

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I see a fixed resistance, although producing heat, the resistance is what it is.

As I said above, the resistance is "a bit" less when the element is cooler.

But, realize the resistance does not become low enough to get to the original "hot" amperage because that amperage would produce the same temperature as it did initially.

You need to think of the power equation as simply expressing what current you would need at a particular voltage to dissipate a certain power.

Ohm's law rules the day,
in that it tells you the relationship between the voltage and current for a fixed resistance.
 
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I think part of this misunderstanding is that people think the device will always use the same POWER, as if the POWER is constant. -- but that is not the case. The devices resistance is ( essentially) constant in this case, and the voltage of supply is constant - those two parameters define all of that then happens. The POWER equation is the resulting power ... we do not start wiht power and back calculate the other values.
 
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