Same state as in the Big Bang in a collapsing universe?

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Is it possible that if the universe collapses, it reaches the same state as in its beginning?
Suppose the universe were to eventually collapse in a Big Crunch [1]. How closely could the universe's final moments resemble those at the beginning of the universe? Could the universe return to its original state exactly in some kind of "Big Crunch" or "Big Bounce" model?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
 
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Suekdccia said:
Suppose the universe were to eventually collapse in a Big Crunch [1]. How closely could the universe's final moments resemble those at the beginning of the universe?
Not close at all. In such a universe, the Big Bang has uniform density everywhere to a very good approximation, i.e., no gravitational clumping has occurred. But over the history of the universe, gravitational clumping does occur--the matter clumps into galaxies, stars, planets, and eventually into black holes. So the Big Crunch will be highly non-uniform, very different from the Big Bang.
 
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This has indeed been a criticism aimed at "oscillating universe" models, there would seem to be a constant increase in entropy (in the form of greater inhomogeneity in the matter, energy, and gravity) that could not "reboot" the same Big Bang conditions. It should be noted, however, that Nobel laureate Roger Penrose feels he has an answer to that: the "conformal cyclic cosmology" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_cyclic_cosmology). It's pretty technical, but the basic idea seems to be that you don't need Big Crunches, you just need infinite expansions to achieve such low densities that there is, in some sense, nothing to anchor down the space (not his way of saying it, but it's what I'm taking from it), allowing for what he calls "conformal rescaling." I think the essence of it is that the universe periodically loses track of its own size scale, and acts like it is once again very dense and hot. The entropy problem goes away in this rescaling event, and like waves lapping at the shore, you get behavior that acts like one Big Bang after another without any Big Crunches in between. I can't speak to its plausibility, Roger Penrose knows more GR in any one of his nerve ganglions than I know in my whole brain.
 

1. What is meant by "same state as in the Big Bang in a collapsing universe"?

When we refer to the same state as in the Big Bang in a collapsing universe, we are talking about the idea that as the universe collapses back in on itself, it may eventually reach a state similar to that of the Big Bang. This means that all matter and energy in the universe would be compressed into a singular point of infinite density and temperature, just as it was at the beginning of the universe.

2. Is it possible for the universe to collapse back in on itself?

While the current understanding of the universe's expansion suggests that it is unlikely to collapse back in on itself, there are some theoretical scenarios in which this could happen. If the amount of dark energy in the universe were to decrease or change in some way, it could potentially lead to a collapse of the universe.

3. What would happen if the universe did collapse back in on itself?

If the universe were to collapse back in on itself, it would likely result in a singularity similar to that of the Big Bang. This would mean that all matter and energy in the universe would be compressed into a single point of infinite density and temperature, leading to the potential for another expansion and the creation of a new universe.

4. How would we know if the universe is collapsing?

Currently, there is no definitive evidence to suggest that the universe is collapsing back in on itself. Scientists continue to study the expansion of the universe through various observations and measurements, but as of now, the prevailing theory is that the universe will continue to expand indefinitely.

5. What implications would a collapsing universe have for the future of our universe?

If the universe were to collapse back in on itself, it would have profound implications for the future of our universe. It could potentially lead to the creation of a new universe through another Big Bang-like event, or it could result in a complete collapse of the universe into a singularity. However, as of now, these scenarios remain purely theoretical and are not supported by current observations of the universe.

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