News Sarah Palin found something useful to do

[humanino]

Murdoch appointed her as news analyst on Fox. I guess not everybody will find this hilarious, but I do.

 

[mgb_phys]

I thought Ms. Palins defeat was blamed on the bias of the elite media - and then she joins the premier American News broadcaster

 

[cronxeh]

So she decided to educate herself on the world around her, by inventing the world around her and projecting it on the public? That is funny.

 

[Dembadon]

Murdoch appointed her as news analyst on Fox. I guess not everybody will find this hilarious, but I do.

The bolded word in the quote is what gave me a chuckle.

I am actually more excited to watch The Daily Show and The Colbert Report on her broadcast days. They'll certainly have a great deal more material after she's up and runnin'.

 

[mgb_phys]

I am actually more excited to watch The Daily Show and The Colbert Report on her broadcast days. They'll certainly have a great deal more material after she's up and runnin'.

No - this is a cunning neo-con plot to put them out of business.
How can you satirize Palin as a news analyst? This is going to rob them of a big junk of material

 

[Ben Niehoff]

I move that the title of this thread be changed to "Sarah Palin found something to do".

 

[Dembadon]

I move that the title of this thread be changed to "Sarah Palin found something to do".

Hear, hear!

 

[humanino]

I move that the title of this thread be changed to "Sarah Palin found something to do".

I found it useful how she helps to clarify the concept of "fair and balanced"

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Useful?

Sadly predictable. In fact I am pretty sure that I did predict it somewhere around here.

 

[Newai]

From governor to news analyst, and two years from now, coffee filter tester.

 

[rewebster]

now all fox has to do is make Jessica Simpson as Palin's co-host/co-analyst, and the picture would be complete

 

[cronxeh]

From governor to news analyst, and two years from now, coffee filter tester.

Ohh totally.. She should replace Billy Mays and do As Seen On Tv

 

[Alfi]

I thought Ms. Palins defeat was blamed on the bias of the elite media - and then she joins the premier American News broadcaster

naw naw my friend ... she joined FOX. LMAO

 

[turbo]

now all fox has to do is make Jessica Simpson as Palin's co-host/co-analyst, and the picture would be complete

I think Carrie Prejean would be a better choice, but that's just me.

 

[Cyrus]

This one is smarter than you people give her credit for. Next time she's up for election she's going to know the issues much better, and she gets air time every single day in the process while being paid. Smart move on her part.

 

[edward]

FOX news analyst, well she did find something that matches her skill level.

Book: GAME CHANGE

 

[Dembadon]

This one is smarter than you people give her credit for. Next time she's up for election she's going to know the issues much better, and she gets air time every single day in the process while being paid. Smart move on her part.

I thought the whole reason she resigned from being Gov. was to get away from "politics as usual." Would it not be enormously hypocritical to then run again? I am surprised that she even joined such a strongly biased "news network" and, in my opinion, placed huge emphasis on just how ludicrous and disingenuous her reason for resignation was in the first place.

 

[turbo]

This one is smarter than you people give her credit for. Next time she's up for election she's going to know the issues much better, and she gets air time every single day in the process while being paid. Smart move on her part.

No, she gets credit for being a lot smarter than she is. According to Steve Schmidt (McCain's campaign manager), she thought the Iraqi government planned the WTC attacks, didn't know that North Korea and South Korea were separate countries, and thought the the entire continent of Africa was a country. After switching colleges 6 times in 6 years, we might expect some gaps in her knowledge, but this is ridiculous. Schmidt says that if she is the GOP candidate in 2012, it would be catastrophic for the party. He knows her intellectual limitations, probably better than anyone, since he and her other handlers had to work overtime to prepare her for even the most basic public statements.

 

[Cyrus]

No, she gets credit for being a lot smarter than she is. According to Steve Schmidt (McCain's campaign manager), she thought the Iraqi government planned the WTC attacks, didn't know that North Korea and South Korea were separate countries, and thought the the entire continent of Africa was a country. After switching colleges 6 times in 6 years, we might expect some gaps in her knowledge, but this is ridiculous. Schmidt says that if she is the GOP candidate in 2012, it would be catastrophic for the party. He knows her intellectual limitations, probably better than anyone, since he and her other handlers had to work overtime to prepare her for even the most basic public statements.

Did you read what I wrote? Obviously not.

 

[Cyrus]

I thought the whole reason she resigned from being Gov. was to get away from "politics as usual." Would it not be enormously hypocritical to then run again? I am surprised that she even joined such a strongly biased "news network" and, in my opinion, placed huge emphasis on just how ludicrous and disingenuous her reason for resignation was in the first place.

You are naive then, because you believe what comes out of her mouth. You really think she left because of "politics as usual"? She is politics as usual.

 

[turbo]

Did you read what I wrote? Obviously not.

Yes, I read it and parsed it thoroughly to try to figure out what you meant. Palin is sly, back-biting, and mercenary, and is shamelessly self-promoting, and she can make a ton of money off the celebrity granted her by McCain's ill-conceived VP choice. That does not mean that she is smart. Her "intelligence" is highly over-stated in the face of glaring evidence to the contrary.

Greedy, crafty, willing to quit her obligations when there is money to be made? Yes. Smart? Not unless you are a Ferengi, and measure greatness in money.

 

[Dembadon]

I thought the whole reason she resigned from being Gov. was to get away from "politics as usual." Would it not be enormously hypocritical to then run again? I am surprised that she even joined such a strongly biased "news network" and, in my opinion, placed huge emphasis on just how ludicrous and disingenuous her reason for resignation was in the first place.

You are naive then, because you believe what comes out of her mouth. You really think she left because of "politics as usual"? She is politics as usual.

I don't believe her, which is why I said her reason was ludicrous and disingenuous. I'm simply holding her accountable for what she says.

 

[Chi Meson]

Um. Political forum?

Shoo! Shoo!

 

[Nebula815]

Yes, I read it and parsed it thoroughly to try to figure out what you meant. Palin is sly, back-biting, and mercenary, and is shamelessly self-promoting, and

Why do you say she is back-biting and mercenary?

What I find interesting is one could also say the same about Barack Obama in certain ways (or do people think he spent twenty years in a church with a racist pastor like that out of pure ignorance?), I do not see such disdain over him though from the people who seem to disdain Palin (would be extremely interesting to see people's reactions if it was reversed, if it was found Palin had attended a church like that for twenty years).

So there is a double-standard there I think. People who criticized Barack Obama on this issue who also criticize Sarah Palin, fine, but I find it odd that many who criticize Sarah Palin as being "evil" and "conniving" so much let Barack Obama slide totally on that issue.

Greedy, crafty, willing to quit her obligations when there is money to be made? Yes. Smart? Not unless you are a Ferengi, and measure greatness in money.

Palin resigned because of the incredibly lax laws in Alaska regarding being able to sue a public official plus the public officials have no financial protection from the lawsuits. They must pay out of pocket.

The Democrats pulled a very, in my opinion, snake-oil, but extremely effective and perfectly legal political tactic by exploiting those laws to file lawsuit after lawsuit against her, which would ultimately have either led her into declaring personal bankruptcy or resigning, which she did.

She could not fulfill her obligations, as her entire staff and she were consumed with the lawsuits.

Nonetheless, that is politics, it is a full-contact sport.

On the issues, I like Palin, and no doubt she is crafty, but I do not think she is conversant enough in the issues for the Presidency right now.

The thing is, I do not think Barack Obama really was conversant in the issues enough either, I mean remember he did things like refer to Iran as a "tiny country." But the media gave him a softball. But that is not an excuse in terms of Palin. I do think she could have handled the VP job just fine though, I mean Biden made that huge gaffe where he talked about FDR getting on the television in 1929 yet no one panicked over the idea of him as VP.

From what I have read about that book "Game Change," it actually gives dirt on ALL the politicians in the campaign. In addition to saying Palin is not intelligent, it also says Barack Obama swears a lot and throws fits behind the scenes, that he could not believe he had to pick Biden as a VP, that Biden was very condescending to him as a candidate, that he asked Hillary multiple times to be his Secretary of State because he "needed her," Hillary said she could not do the job because of Bill's big mouth, that John Edward's wife was very cruel to him and would belittle him in front of people a lot and is not the pure-hearted, innocent wife that she has portrayed herself as, etc...sounds very interesting.

One other thing on Palin, the ball is officially in her court now. She has loads of critics who call her stupid, well now she has a forum on Fox News, on the highest-rated cable news program (O'Reilly Factor) to explain her points and views and prove the critics wrong.

If she cannot do that, that will be her own fault.

 

[humanino]

Barack Obama

Hey, that was a humourus thread about Fox news hiring Palin !

 

[Nebula815]

Hey, that was a humourus thread about Fox news hiring Palin !

I was just pointing out what I see as a bit of a double-standard in criticisms over Palin's character from some people (not specifically turbo-1, I just mean in general).

 

[NeoDevin]

I was just [strike]pointing out what I see as a bit of a double-standard in criticisms over Palin's character from some people[/strike] going on a rant about a topic completely unrelated to the thread topic[/color]

There, fixed it for you.

 

[cronxeh]

Ohh man John Stewart is pwning her at the Daily Show right now.

 

[Char. Limit]

Now that isn't nice...

Palin does face a double standard. She is breaking the ineptness barrier. For too long, we've passed inept people over for people we called "able". Well, now Palin stands like a MLK of ineptness, and hordes of inept people will follow her banner to victory!

Sorry if that offended anyone, but if one person laughs then it's worth it.

 

[lisab]

I was just pointing out what I see as a bit of a double-standard in criticisms over Palin's character from some people (not specifically turbo-1, I just mean in general).

With respect to attacks on character, I don't hear more attacks directed at her compared to "Joe Average Candidate." It seems an evenly distributed slug-fest to me. Now, I admit I really haven't done real research into it...due to mainly to lack of interest ...this is just my opinion based on what media I see.

What I do hear is many, many comments on her intelligence, and she has not effectively refuted them.

But what you quoted from that book...some of those perceived "character flaws" I wouldn't classify as such (sweating is not a character flaw). While it might make interesting reading for people who like celebrity gossip columns, frankly, it also humanizes the candidates, so maybe something good comes of it.

But lack of intelligence isn't a character flaw either; rather, it's an inadequate foundation from which to lead.

 

[Nebula815]

What I do hear is many, many comments on her intelligence, and she has not effectively refuted them.

I agree; as said, she has the perfect forum to do so now, so if she does not, that is her fault. Palin is like a wild card right now, because on the one hand, for example, she was known to be a very good debater from her Alaska debates. However, on national and international issues, she seemed to be rather clueless in too many areas. Then there is what Steve Schimdt supposedly said, but then they also said she was a quick study nonetheless.

Then there was her Katie Couric interview where she couldn't name what publications she reads. I mean even if she doesn't read them, how hard is it to just tick off the New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Economist, etc...? It seems like she is intelligent, but rather ignorant in many areas, but if she is in fact intelligent, she can fix the ignorance part and re-brand herself. On issues she doesn't know much about, she comes acorss as very canned, however if she knows an issue, she seems to come across fine with it.

So we will see.

But lack of intelligence isn't a character flaw either; rather, it's an inadequate foundation from which to lead.

No no, I wasn't trying to imply that it was, and I agree, if someone is legitimately ignorant or stupid, you don't want them leading.

 

[Cyrus]

Yes, I read it and parsed it thoroughly to try to figure out what you meant. Palin is sly, back-biting, and mercenary, and is shamelessly self-promoting, and she can make a ton of money off the celebrity granted her by McCain's ill-conceived VP choice. That does not mean that she is smart. Her "intelligence" is highly over-stated in the face of glaring evidence to the contrary.

Greedy, crafty, willing to quit her obligations when there is money to be made? Yes. Smart? Not unless you are a Ferengi, and measure greatness in money.

Again - as I said. She is smarter than you give her credit for.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Again - as I said. She is smarter than you give her credit for.

I suppose you could call it another type of intelligence. I heard some snippets of her debates from the AK race. She certainly sounded good though if you paid attention she was really just making a slick side step of most questions and spewing sound bites from her platform.

 

[Char. Limit]

Statu, that's what politicians do.

That's the way they get elected.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

This one is smarter than you people give her credit for. Next time she's up for election she's going to know the issues much better, and she gets air time every single day in the process while being paid. Smart move on her part.

She also continues to expose herself as a crackpot. The fact is that the more America got to know Ms. Palin, the less they liked her. Her polls shot up for a few weeks and continually dropped after that, She will appeal to the wacky base, of course, but even after the last decade, it is hard to imagine that all but the extreme right will fall for her line of bull again. Her only real advantage was that no one knew anything about her. McCain brought her on hoping that the gun-toten mama image would be enough to last the election. It wasn't. Now even he admits that he screwed up.

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care...

- Sarah Palin
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palin-top-10.htm
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When you say smart, do you mean in that she is willing stoop to any level, no matter how low, in order to terrorize the country into voting for her? I would agree that she is ruthless and highly deceptive; I'll give her that. But that doesn't require that one be intelligent. Any fool can be ruthless and deceptive.

Perhaps you could explain the basis for your statement? I don't see taking easy money from Fox as being smart; it's a no-brainer. What else is she going to do? Did she ditch the Governer's office for advanced political training? Probably. So, she's a quitter; she failed to perform her duties when elected to office; has never completed a full term of office, beyond that of city mayor. That will go far in an election. An absolutely cunning move!

I am more than amused when I hear about how competitive she was in Alaska - population, 687,000. And even they probably wouldn't take her back now.

 

[Cyrus]

I didn't say she is book smart.

If you are reporting the news every day, do you think she is going to stumble like she did her first go at the election? Not in a million years. Does she get free media exposure, day in, day out - you betcha. That makes her very dangerous to tangle with. Americans have an attention span of five minutes. They will long since forget her blunders in four years.

 

[Nebula815]

She also continues to expose herself as a crackpot.

How is she a crackpot?

The fact is that the more America got to know Ms. Palin, the less they liked her. Her polls shot up for a few weeks and continually dropped after that,

That will happen to any new fresh politician who comes on the scene then generates controversy. Plus Palin made a few blunders herself.

She will appeal to the wacky base, of course, but even after the last decade, it is hard to imagine that all but the extreme right will fall for her line of bull again.

Both sides have wacky bases if you are talking the hard social fundamentalist religious Right or the hard socialist ultra-Left

Her only real advantage was that no one knew anything about her. McCain brought her on hoping that the gun-toten mama image would be enough to last the election. It wasn't. Now even he admits that he screwed up

I would say it was McCain who lost the election. He ran a horrible campaign. Even Steve Schimdt says that despite Palin's misgivings, they would have lost by a larger margin without her (and the margin wasn't that large).

McCain had a few big negatives going for him:

1) He acted like he didn't understand anything about the economy (and he probably didn't, because earlier in the campaign he said he didn't understand the economy; why he never bothered to read any books on basic economics all those years in the Senate is beyond me, why he would admit such a thing is even stranger).

2) He never went after Obama on issues he could have, such as the tax issue, the cap-and-trade issue (as a strict politician, despite believing in global warming, he could have used the cap-and-trade issue as a way to say he believes in GW, but doesn't want to wreck the economy)

3) He was a member of what was (and still is) and unpopular party with an incredibly unpopular President of said party as well

4) He was against a very charismatic candidate

I would actually say it was Obama who made the mistake in his choice of Biden as VP. Biden could have destroyed the Obama campaign with his mouth, the media covered him up as best they could. I mean here you had the man whom Obama was choosing for his "experience" and he makes those huge gaffes? Imagine the devastation to the McCain campaign if Palin had made those gaffes She gaffed with Katie Couric to a degree (couldn't name what she read or which Supreme Court cases were most important to her), but then she managed to do okay enough in the debate against Biden to fix that.

If Obama had chosen Hillary as his VP, he would have wiped the floor with McCain easily, because that would have pulled the Hillary voters. Instead he chose Biden, so McCain picked Palin, which was designed to throw the Obama campaign off-balance, and it did. It also pulled a significant number of Hillary voters, in the end however, not enough to overtake Obama.

 

[Cyrus]

She She gaffed with Katie Couric to a degree? - a degree??

She was a blundering incoherent fool.

 

[Nebula815]

I didn't say she is book smart.

If you are reporting the news every day, do you think she is going to stumble like she did her first go at the election? Not in a million years. Does she get free media exposure, day in, day out - you betcha. That makes her very dangerous to tangle with. Americans have an attention span of five minutes. They will long since forget her blunders in four years.

Yes, she can make or break herself now. It is up to her to re-brand herself.

 

[Cyrus]

Yes, she can make or break herself now. It is up to her to re-brand herself.

Let's just say, I'm not root for her to do well - that's the polite version.

 

[Nebula815]

She She gaffed with Katie Couric to a degree? - a degree??

She was a blundering incoherent fool.

Incoherent yes, but she did not make any major gaffes to the degree Biden did. Biden made a gaffe with Couric where they literally would've had to pull Palin from the ticket if she'd done that. One other thing, do not judge intelligence by the person's coherence with the media. Look at Caroline Kennedy when they were interviewing her, when she was being considered for the New York Senate seat. She is a highly-educated woman, very book smart, but you never would have known it if you went solely by the interview.

 

[Cyrus]

Incoherent yes, but she did not make any major gaffes to the degree Biden did. Biden made a gaffe with Couric where they literally would've had to pull Palin from the ticket if she'd done that.

Which gaffe are you referring to? As far as I remember, she couldn't name a damn newspaper she read. It was pathetic, and that's an understatement.

 

[Nebula815]

Let's just say, I'm not root for her to do well - that's the polite version.

How come?

 

[Cyrus]

How come?

I think her views, politically, are BS. Her knowledge is next to nothing, and she says one thing and acts another. She needs to quietly disappear into an abyss.

 

[Nebula815]

Which gaffe are you referring to? As far as I remember, she couldn't name a damn newspaper she read. It was pathetic, and that's an understatement.

That is the specific Palin gaffe I mentioned, and yes it was pathetic. Go read my previous posts. She also couldn't name the specific Spreme Court cases most important to her. One of the first things I would have done if I was her was make sure i knew all the major SCOTUS cases, as that can be used as a gotcha question).

Biden's major gaffe was when he talked about FDR getting on the television in 1929 to calm the people down about the crash. Now I don't know what history he was reading, because:

1) FDR wasn't President in 1929
2) There was no television then

 

[Cyrus]

That is the specific Palin gaffe I mentioned, and yes it was pathetic. Go read my previous posts. She also couldn't name the specific Spreme Court cases most important to her. One of the first things I would have done if I was her was make sure i knew all the major SCOTUS cases, as that can be used as a gotcha question).

Biden's major gaffe was when he talked about FDR getting on the television in 1929 to calm the people down about the crash. Now I don't know what history he was reading, because:

1) FDR wasn't President in 1929
2) There was no television then

Wow, FRD was not president and there was no television. Wow......this matters.

Maybe if he was running for History professor. But not for VP. There is a big difference not knowing that, and not knowing relevant modern court cases or what newspaper you read.

 

[Nebula815]

Her knowledge is next to nothing,

Hence me saying she can either make or break herself now. She has a forum to fix this image of herself. I agree that her knowledge is too limited, she speaks too much in platitudes.

and she says one thing and acts another. She needs to quietly disappear into an abyss.

Depends. On being pro-life, she is very solid. On being fiscally conservative, she had the Bridge to Nowhere.

 

[Nebula815]

Wow, FRD was not president and there was no television. Wow......this matters.

Maybe if he was running for History professor. But not for VP. There is a big difference not knowing that, and not knowing relevant modern court cases or what newspaper you read.

By that standard, then it shouldn't be any problem whether Palin knew anything about SCOTUS cases or the history of anything. History is very important. And we expect our elected reprentatives at that level to know basic history.

 

[Cyrus]

By that standard, then it shouldn't be any problem whether Palin knew anything about SCOTUS cases or the history of anything. History is very important. And we expect our elected reprentatives at that level to know basic history.

No, that is incorrect. Please do not make a clownish extrapolation of my statement like this.

Knowing FDR was president in 1929 is irrelevant. Knowing that Americans did or did not have TV at the time - is a petty argument to make.

Not knowing important court cases that are going on TODAY, modern politics, or newspapers - is a very big deal. She is uncultured at best, ignorant at worse.

Your argument does not stand up.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

How is she a crackpot?

I provided one of her quotes.

Both sides have wacky bases if you are talking the hard social fundamentalist religious Right or the hard socialist ultra-Left

I wouldn't want a crackpot lefty either.

The fact is that I have a long history as a conservative voter - I am a registered Independent. Any suggestion that I am coming from the hard left is only valid from the extreme right, where everything is to the left.