Schrodinger equation for a weird potential

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The discussion revolves around a specific potential function used in quantum mechanics, defined as \( U(x) = \frac{U_1}{ \left( 1+e^{x/a}\right)^2 } - \frac{U_2}{ \left( 1+e^{x/a}\right)} \). The original poster is attempting to find the energies and wave functions for bound states using the Schrödinger equation, but has encountered difficulties in analyzing the behavior of the wave function's derivatives as a variable approaches a critical point.

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  • The original poster describes their approach to transforming the Schrödinger equation into a more manageable form and expresses confusion about the behavior of derivatives as the variable approaches a specific limit. Some participants question the implications of the derivatives potentially becoming infinitely large and discuss the normalization of the wave function in this context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the wave function's behavior at critical points. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of derivatives and normalization concerns.

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Hello everyone,

I have this weirdo potential for homework

\begin{equation}
U(x) = \frac{U_1}{ \left( 1+e^{x/a}\right)^2 } - \frac{U_2}{ \left( 1+e^{x/a}\right)}
\end{equation}

where U1,U2 and "a" are positive

and I need to find the energies for the bound states and also the wave functions for them. I got stuck on one part for like 2 or 3 hours, tried tons of ways, but still nothing. So I'll post the most relevant way by far and I'm hoping to get some help from you. By the way, If anyone knows the name of this potential or some kind of a book (I prefer English, Russian or German, but any other language would do :D ) where I can get some help, please tell me. I looked up in Landau, Flugge and Greiner but couldn't find anything that could help...

So here it goes:

The Schrödinger equation looks like this:

\begin{equation}
-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{d^2\Psi(x)}{dx^2} + \left(\frac{U_1}{ \left( 1+e^{x/a}\right)^2 } - \frac{U_2}{ \left( 1+e^{x/a}\right)}\right)\Psi(x)=E\Psi(x),
\end{equation}

For the Bound states we have E=-|E|. Using these following notations:
\begin{equation}w=1+e^{x/a},\end{equation}
\begin{equation}\frac{2ma^2U_1}{\hbar^2} = \alpha^2, \end{equation}
\begin{equation} \frac{2ma^2U_2}{\hbar^2} = \beta^2, \end{equation}
and
\begin{equation} \frac{2ma^2|E|}{\hbar^2} = k^2\end{equation}
I get

\begin{equation}
(w-1)^2 \Psi''(w) + (w-1) \Psi'(w) -\left(\frac{\alpha^2}{w^2} - \frac{\beta^2}{w} + k^2 \right) \Psi(w)
\end{equation}

and \begin{equation} 1<w< \infty \end{equation}.

When \begin{equation} w \to \infty \end{equation}, then the equation is

\begin{equation}
(w-1)^2 \Psi''(w) + (w-1) \Psi'(w) - k^2 \Psi(w)=0
\end{equation}
This is Eulers differential equation and the solution is \begin{equation} \Psi(w) = (w-1)^{-k} \end{equation}.

So here is the problem... When
\begin{equation} w \to 1 \end{equation}
then I can clearly say that

\begin{equation}
\frac{\alpha^2}{w^2} - \frac{\beta^2}{w} = \alpha^2 - \beta^2
\end{equation},
but I have no idea what should I do about the first and the second derivative. Any ideas?








 
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If w is going to 1, then you don't have to worry about the derivatives because the coefficients both go to zero.
 
Yes that would be true if we where guaranteed that both derivatives are not infinitely large.. or are we :D I have no idea what should i do at this point
 
I don't know how you'd get an infinitely large derivative at a point without the wavefunction being asymptotically large. Ψ*Ψ has to be a positive number less than 1. Don't know if you could normalize a wavefunction with an infinite derivative at a point.
 

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