Semiconduction in a superconducting circuit?

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The discussion revolves around the potential integration of semiconductors within superconducting circuits, exploring the theoretical and practical implications of combining these two distinct types of materials. Participants examine the differences between superconductivity and semiconduction, the challenges of hybrid circuits, and specific materials that may exhibit both properties.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that while superconductors and semiconductors are fundamentally different, they can coexist in the same circuit.
  • One participant mentions gallium-doped germanium as a material that may exhibit superconductivity, suggesting that its behavior deviates from traditional semiconductor theory.
  • There is a discussion about the possibility of using a semiconducting Josephson junction in a superconducting loop, with some participants questioning the feasibility of such a device.
  • Another participant notes that hybrid circuits exist where superconducting and semiconducting elements are combined, but highlights the fabrication challenges due to material incompatibility.
  • Concerns are raised about "carrier freeze-out" in cryogenic semiconductors, which could limit their effectiveness in low-temperature environments when mixed with superconductors.
  • Some participants clarify that while Josephson junctions require superconducting electrodes, it is possible to use a semiconductor as the barrier between them.
  • There is mention of specific semiconductor materials, such as III-V semiconductors, that can operate at low temperatures without relying on thermal excitations, which may have implications for their use in hybrid circuits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the integration of semiconductors and superconductors, with no consensus reached on the feasibility or implications of such combinations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical applications and theoretical underpinnings of these materials working together.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the compatibility of materials in hybrid circuits and the specific conditions under which semiconductors may lose their conductive properties at low temperatures.

Loren Booda
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Can a fundamentally superconducting circuit include semiconduction?
 
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The resistance of a semiconductor is related to charge carrier density, which is the density of electrons in the conduction energy band. It's a different thing than superconductivity, where resistance is zero under some set of conditions and limitations. Of course, you may put the two together in the same circuit, but they are different things.
 
Gallium doped Germanium is claimed to be a material capable of superconductivity, and Germanium is intrinsically modeled as a semiconductor. But when this Germanium alloy super-conducts, it functions in a way not predicted by the kind of semiconductor theory that I was taught; it may be regarded as a separate phenomenon. Superconductors as a whole are not well understood.
 
What do you mean?
Circuit of separate semiconductor and superconductor devices?
Or, Single device having both properties?
 
Kholdstare said:
What do you mean?
Circuit of separate semiconductor and superconductor devices?
Or, Single device having both properties?

For instance, consider a superconducting loop. Perhaps a semiconducting Josephson junction there would allow unique properties.
 
There are hybrid circuits of various types (I even work on some myself), i.e. circuits where some elements are superconducting and others semiconducting. They are far from trivial to make, but that is mainly because of problems with the fabrication (the materials used are not really compatible, and it gets very complicated).

There is no such thing as a semiconducting Josephson junction (or SQUID) since the two electrodes of a JJ have to be superconducting. However, what you can have is a JJ where the barrier between the electrodes is made from a semiconductor. This has been done using various materials. I think the most recent example was an aluminium-InP-aluminium junction, where the InP had been used to form a 2DEG. Unfortunately I can'r remember who did this.
 
f95toli said:
There is no such thing as a semiconducting Josephson junction (or SQUID) since the two electrodes of a JJ have to be superconducting. However, what you can have is a JJ where the barrier between the electrodes is made from a semiconductor.

It seems that this is what I was looking for. Do you know of any links to illustrations of this? Thanks.
 
The biggest problem with cryogenic semiconductors is "carrier freeze-out". This is the #1 issue with mixing superconductor and semiconductor circuits intimately.

Basically semiconductors are only "semi-conducting" because they have free carriers that are thermally released to float around the material and conduct currents. Doping can increase this carrier concentration but ultimately all the carrier concentration formulae have an ekT term in them that describes the thermal carrier release from the dopant atoms. As you drop the temperature, this term goes to zero and the semiconductor turns into an insulator electrically. Ergo the term "Freeze Out".
 
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jsgruszynski said:
Basically semiconductors are only "semi-conducting" because they have free carriers that are thermally released to float around the material and conduct currents. Doping can increase this carrier concentration but ultimately all the carrier concentration formulae have an ekT term in them that describes the thermal carrier release from the dopant atoms. As you drop the temperature, this term goes to zero and the semiconductor turns into an insulator electrically. Ergo the term "Freeze Out".

That is true only for some semiconductors, the most obvious example being "normal" silicon (alothough very overdoped silicon can work, and some Si transistors do work even at 4K).

FETs made from III-V semiconductors work at any temperature since they do not rely on thermal excitations, this is why GaAs, InP etc. are used in for example low-noise high frequency amplifers (mainly microwave frequencies and above) that are used in radio-astronomy and other demanding application (I operate a 4-8 GHz InP amplifier at 2 kelvin).
Unfortunately there are no good semiconductor based cryogenic DC amplifers, the 1/f noise of GaAs is way too high.

The main reason why we rarely mix semiconductors and superconductors is that the fabrication becomes extremely complex, some of the processes used are simply incompatible.
 
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Loren Booda said:
It seems that this is what I was looking for. Do you know of any links to illustrations of this? Thanks.

unfortunately I can't think of a link, although you should be able to find something via Google Scholar.
 

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