Set theory and analysis: Cardinality of continuous functions from R to R

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the cardinality of the set of continuous functions from R to R, specifically exploring whether this set has the same cardinality as R. The original poster mentions limited familiarity with cardinal numbers and seeks to understand how to construct injections between these sets using the Schroeder-Bernstein theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for injections to demonstrate cardinality equivalence and explore the idea that continuous functions can be determined by their values on a countable set, specifically the rationals. There is also a suggestion to associate continuous functions with real numbers based on function values at rational inputs.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various ideas and approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between continuous functions and rational numbers, but there is no explicit consensus on the methods to construct the necessary injections.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted uncertainty regarding the foundational understanding of cardinality and the properties of real numbers, particularly in relation to their limits and the completion of the rationals.

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Homework Statement


Prove the set of continuous functions from R to R has the same cardinality as R

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We haven't done anything with cardinal numbers (and we won't), so my only tools are the definition of cardinality and the Schroeder-Bernstein theorem and its consequences.

I also don't know any "high brow" mathematical facts about continuous functions.

The Attempt at a Solution


Not much. By Schroeder-Bernstein, we need an injection f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow C^0 and vice versa. We have the usual embedding map from \mathbb{R} to C^0, but I've no idea how to construct an injection going the other way. Given any continuous function, how do I uniquely identify it with a real number?
 
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I think you need to know at least a few things about cardinality. The main trick is that every continuous function is determined by its values on the rationals, which is a countable set. Does that help?
 
ah yes, then I should be able to associate any continuous function with a real number in [0,1) whose digits correspond to the value of the function evaluated at every q in Q. doing that shouldn't be too hard.

thanks!
 
as an aside: how do I know that every real number is the limit of some sequence of rational numbers? I mean, I "know" that this is pretty much what R is (as the completion of Q), but I'm not sure how to rigorously back that up.
 
Mosis said:
as an aside: how do I know that every real number is the limit of some sequence of rational numbers? I mean, I "know" that this is pretty much what R is (as the completion of Q), but I'm not sure how to rigorously back that up.
Isn't "every real number is a limit of rational numbers" pretty much (among other things) literally what "R is the completion of Q" means?
 

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