Shigleys Indeterminate Beam Derivation

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The discussion focuses on deriving moment expressions for a rigidly supported beam fixed at both ends and subjected to a point load, specifically seeking to derive the left-hand fixing moment M1 and M_ab as presented in Shigley's. The user Bugatti79 shares their attempts and expresses confusion about how their results differ from the expected expressions. After receiving guidance, they successfully derive both M1 and M_ab. The conversation highlights the importance of boundary conditions and the relationship between moments and reactions in beam theory. Ultimately, the user resolves their initial difficulties with the derivation process.
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Folks,

I am having difficulty deriving the moment expressions for a rigidly supported beam fixed at either ends and subjected to a point load. I have two attachments, one for the expressions given in Shigleys and the other for my attempted derivation.

The problem is that I want to derive the left hand fixing moment M_1 and M_{ab} as in Shigleys. However, I believe my attempts are not leading to these expressions.

Is anyone good at these indeterminate derivations?

Thanks
Bugatti79



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NOte that I have posted this in the math help forum http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/f9/shigleys-indeterminate-beam-derivation-189693.html"

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It seems your work is OK as far as it goes. Remember, the slope and deflection of the beam are both zero at the right end of the beam as well.
 
Hi Steamking,

Thanks for your reply.
EI \frac{dy}{dx}=M_1 x+\frac{F(x-a)^2}{2}-\frac{R_1 x^2}{2}+c1

EIy=\frac{M_1 x^2}{2}+\frac{F(x-a)^3}{6}-\frac{R_1 x^3}{6}+c1 x+c2

applying the BC's gives c1 and c2 both =0.

Yes, I get 2 equations and 2 unknowns as below...eliminating R1 to find M1

\frac{1}{6} M_1 x^2 =-\frac{F(x-a)^3}{6}+\frac{F(x-a)^2 x}{6}

I don't see how this leads to M1 in shigleys because it also has a b term in it. Also, I am curious how to derive M_{ab}...
 
You have determined M1 in terms of F and x. You should be able to substitute for M1 in the slope equation and evaluate it at x = L. Knowing the value of the slope should allow you to solve for R1.
 
Dear Steam King,

I have obtained both M1 and Mab! Thanks

bugatti79
 

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