Show that air drag varies quadratically with speed

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing the motion of a bullet fired straight up, considering the effects of air drag that varies quadratically with speed. The task is to demonstrate how speed changes with height using specific equations related to upward and downward motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between acceleration and speed, with some attempting to derive expressions for speed as a function of height. Questions arise regarding the integration constants and how to connect their derived equations to the original problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to relate their findings to the original equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equality of expressions for acceleration, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the correct interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the variables to use and how to incorporate the original equations into their solutions. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in deriving the desired relationships.

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Homework Statement



A gun is fired straight up. Assuming that the air drag on the bullet varies quadratically with speed. Show that speed varies with height according to the equations

v^2 = Ae^(-2kx) - g/k (upward motion)
V^2 = g/k - Be^(2kx) (downward motion)

in which A and B are constants of integration, g is the acceleration of gravity, k=cm, where c is the drag constant and m is the mass of the bullet. (Note: x is measured positive upward, and the gravitational force is assumed to be constant.)

Homework Equations



m dv/dt = mg - cv^2 = mg(1 - cv^2/mg)
.'. dv/dt = g(1 - v^2/v(sub t)^2) where v(sub t) is the terminal speed, sqrt(mg/c)

dv/dt = dv/dx dx/dt = 1/2 dv^2/dx
So now we can write the equation as:

dv^2/dx = 2g(1 - v^2/v(sub t)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have gotten as far as to say:

For downward motion:
v^2 = g/k(1exp^[2kx]) + v(naught)^2.exp^[2kx]​
Likewise for upward, we get:
v^2 = g/k(1-exp^[-2kx]) + v(naught)^2.exp^[-2kx]​

I just don't know how to relate these to the original equation to show that speed varies with height.
 
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You already know that

[tex]a=\frac{dv}{dt}=g \large(1-\frac{v^{2}}{v^{2}_{T}} \large)[/tex]

Now it is also true that

[tex]a=\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex]

So ...
 
To be completely honest, I'm not sure where you're going with that.

I'm not sure how to show specifically that the speed varies with the height. What variable would I use to represent speed, and how do I incorporate the original equations that were given in the problem into this solution?

Thank you so much for your help!
 
Look at the equations I gave you. If the right sides are equal to the same thing, the acceleration, then the right sides are equal to each other. Then you get a differential equation that you can solve to find v(x). Isn't that what you want?
 

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