Show that all simple groups of order 60 are isomorphic to A5.

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The discussion revolves around the proof that all simple groups of order 60 are isomorphic to the alternating group A5. Participants explore the implications of subgroup indices and homomorphisms related to group actions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that if G is a simple group of order 60, then G has a subgroup of index 5.
  • Another participant builds on this by stating that G acts by conjugation on the cosets of this subgroup, leading to a homomorphism from G to S5.
  • A third participant argues that the image of this homomorphism, a subgroup H of S5, cannot be S5 itself due to the order of elements, suggesting that |H| must equal 60, thus implying G is isomorphic to A5.
  • One participant suggests verifying that A5 is the only subgroup of order 60 in S5.
  • A later reply indicates a sense of resolution, with a participant expressing confidence in their understanding of the argument.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the steps taken to show that G is isomorphic to A5, but there are still elements of uncertainty regarding the completeness of the proof and the necessity of verifying subgroup uniqueness.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made about the subgroup structure of S5 and the implications of the homomorphism, which could affect the argument's validity.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for those studying group theory, particularly in understanding the properties of simple groups and their relationships to symmetric and alternating groups.

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Prove that if G is a simple group of order 60, then G is isomorphic to A5.

So far, I have shown that there is a subgroup of G with index 5. I know that with this information I should be able to show that G is isomorphic to A5, but I'm not sure how...
 
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Prove that if G is a simple group of order 60, then G is isomorphic to A5.

So far, I have shown that G has a subgroup of index 5. If I call these 5 cosets K1, K2, K3, K4, and K5, then G acts by conjugation on these cosets, and there is a homomorphism from G to S5. I'm not sure how to proceed from there...
 
I think this is right.
As you said, there's a homomorphism from G to S5. The image of the G is a subgroup of S5, call it H. This subgroup can't be S5 itself, since S5 has 120 elements, and A5 has only 60. If |H| < 60 then the kernel of the homomorphism is more than just the identity, and is normal in G. But G is simple, so |H|=60, i.e. H=A5, so then G=A5.
 
i guess you should check that A5 is the only subgroup of order 60 in S5.
 
Thank you, I think I figured it out : )
 

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