Show that (q_n)^2 approaches 2 as n goes to infinity

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the sequence \( (q_n)^2 \) approaches 2 as \( n \) approaches infinity, with a focus on the relationship between \( m_n \) and \( n \) in the context of bounding and inequalities.

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  • The original poster attempts to establish bounds for \( m_n \) in relation to \( n \) and is seeking hints on how to effectively manage these bounds. Some participants question whether \( q_n \) is indeed \( m_n \) and suggest manipulating the original inequality to find a bound. Others propose considering the limit of \( |q_n| \) instead of \( q_n^2 \) to facilitate bounding.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the variables involved and suggesting different approaches to bounding \( m_n \). There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning have been introduced.

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For every natural number n, associate with it a natural number mn such that [itex]\frac{{m_n}^2}{n^2} < 2 < \frac{{(m_n + 1)^2}}{n^2}[/itex]. show that [itex]{q_n}^2[/itex]approaches 2 as n approaches infinity.

i need to show that [itex]|\frac{{m_n}^2}{n^2} - 2| < ε[/itex]. what i have so far is that [itex]2 - \frac{{m_n}^2}{n^2} < \frac{{(m_n + 1)^2}}{n^2} - \frac{{m_n}^2}{n^2} = \frac{2m_n + 1}{n^2}[/itex].

my trouble is that i can't figure out a way to bound m_n. i know how to take care of the n2 by choosing N such that N2ε > 1 and choosing n > N. can someone give me a hint on how to deal with the m_n? thanks.
 
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Is ##q_n## supposed to be ##m_n##? If so, your original inequality can be manipulated to look like something1 < something2 - m_n^2 - 2m_n < something3, which can start you off towards a bound.

If ##q_n## is not ##m_n##, what is it?
 
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Is ##q_n## supposed to be ##m_n##? If so, your original inequality can be manipulated to look like something1 < something2 - m_n^2 - 2m_n < something3, which can start you off towards a bound.

If ##q_n## is not ##m_n##, what is it?

sorry i forgot to include this: [itex]q_n = \frac{m_n}{n}[/itex]
 
Ok, so your inequality is

$$q_n^2 < 2 < \left(q_n + \frac{1}{n}\right)^2$$

What if you try to find the limit of ##|q_n|## instead of ##q_n^2##? It looks to me like you can easily get a bound for ##|q_n|## from your inequality. The triangle inequality will come in handy for that.
 

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