Significant Figures in Scientific Notation

In summary: So, the desired iteration is the one where m=2 and the relative error is less than 0.5%.In summary, the author is discussing the calculation of relative error and the maximum acceptable value for it. The expression 0.5x10^(2-m) is used to determine the number of significant figures in an iteration, with m being the largest value that makes the expression larger than the desired relative error. The desired number of significant figures is 2, so when the relative error for an iteration produces m=2, that is the desired iteration. The author could have used a fixed value instead of 0.5x10^(2-m) but chose to use it as a way to explain the concept.
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I don't understand this question . The author want the at least 2 significant correct . why 0.5x10^(2-m) is used ?

It's not clear that the author want the answer to be less than 5 ?50? 0.5 ? 0.05 ?or 0.005?

Can someone explain it ?

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Hi fondeh:

I do not understand what you do not understand.

The author is describing the calculation of relative error between two successive estimates. The maximum for an acceptable relative error is given by the expression
0.5x10^(2-m), where m is the largest value that makes the expression larger than the a particular relative error.​
The the desired number of significant figures is 2. Therefore when the realtive error for an iteration produces m=2 to get the desired inequality, then that is the desired iteration.

Hope this helps some.

Regards,
Buzz
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
Hi fondeh:

I do not understand what you do not understand.

The author is describing the calculation of relative error between two successive estimates. The maximum for an acceptable relative error is given by the expression
0.5x10^(2-m), where m is the largest value that makes the expression larger than the a particular relative error.​
The the desired number of significant figures is 2. Therefore when the realtive error for an iteration produces m=2 to get the desired inequality, then that is the desired iteration.

Hope this helps some.

Regards,
Buzz
since the largest significant figure is 2 , why shouldn't the 2-m = 2 , m = 0 ?
 
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given that 0.5x10^(2-m) , no matter it's 0.5 , 0.05 , 0.005 , it's still 1 significant right ?
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
Hi fondeh:

I do not understand what you do not understand.

The author is describing the calculation of relative error between two successive estimates. The maximum for an acceptable relative error is given by the expression
0.5x10^(2-m), where m is the largest value that makes the expression larger than the a particular relative error.​
The the desired number of significant figures is 2. Therefore when the realtive error for an iteration produces m=2 to get the desired inequality, then that is the desired iteration.

Hope this helps some.

Regards,
Buzz

The 0.5x10^(2-m) is not given earlier in the question , it's given in the solution there ( author assume himself 0 ? why don't the author use fixed value ? e.g. 0.5 ? 0.05 ? or 0.005? .
why he use 0.5x10^(2-m) ?
 
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The question asks for the number of iterations for successive answers to agree in two decimal places. This means that the answers have to differ by less than 0.5 X 10^(-2), or .005.
 
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Mark44 said:
The question asks for the number of iterations for successive answers to agree in two decimal places. This means that the answers have to differ by less than 0.5 X 10^(-2), or .005.
0.5 X 10^(-2), or .005 is 3 decimal place , right ?

btw , the question ask for at least 2 significant figure , right ?? not decimal place ...
 
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fonseh said:
btw , the question ask for at least 2 significant figure , right ?? not decimal place ...
fonseh said:
given that 0.5x10^(2-m) , no matter it's 0.5 , 0.05 , 0.005 , it's still 1 significant right ?
fonseh said:
since the largest significant figure is 2 , why shouldn't the 2-m = 2 , m = 0 ?
Hi Fonesh:
You are right. 2 significant figures , not decimal places.

Regarding "0.5 , 0.05 , 0.005 , it's still 1 significant", what is desired is the iteration which first shows 2 significant figures. The number of significant figures in the value of the expression 0.5x10^(2-m) is not relevant.

The author's intention is to teach you about the expression 0.5x10^(2-m) as a way to determine the number of significant figures in an iteration. Since 2 figures are wanted, m=2 when the desired iteration satisfies the inequality about the relative change between two consecutive iterations. That means that the iteration for which m= 2 (or 0.5x10^(2-m)=0.5%), which means the relative difference < 0.5%, is the desired iteration.

I think the way the author presented this without any discussion to explain it is unfortunate. It would perhaps have been clearer if the author had written, "0.5x10^(2-m)%".

Regards,
Buzz
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
Regarding "0.5 , 0.05 , 0.005 , it's still 1 significant", what is desired is the iteration which first shows 2 significant figures. The number of significant figures in the value of the expression 0.5x10^(2-m) is not relevant.
I agree. In my earlier post I was thinking in terms of two decimal places, not two significant digits.
 

Related to Significant Figures in Scientific Notation

What are significant figures and why are they important?

Significant figures are digits that carry meaning in a numerical value. They are important because they indicate the precision and accuracy of a measurement or calculation. The more significant figures, the more precise the value is.

How do you determine the number of significant figures in a number?

To determine the number of significant figures in a number, follow these rules:

  • Non-zero digits are always significant.
  • Zeroes between non-zero digits are always significant.
  • Leading zeroes are not significant.
  • Trailing zeroes after a decimal point are significant.
  • Trailing zeroes before a decimal point may or may not be significant, depending on the context.

What is the significance of rounding to the correct number of significant figures?

Rounding to the correct number of significant figures is crucial for maintaining accuracy and precision in calculations. Rounding too early or too late can lead to errors in the final result.

Why do significant figures matter in scientific calculations?

Significant figures are important in scientific calculations because they reflect the level of precision and accuracy in the data used. Using the correct number of significant figures ensures that the final result is not misleading or incorrect.

Can the number of significant figures in a final answer exceed the significant figures of the original data?

No, the number of significant figures in a final answer should not exceed the significant figures of the original data. Doing so would imply a level of precision that is not supported by the original data and can lead to erroneous results.

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