Significant figures -- wrong answer to Thermodynamics question?

In summary, the conversation discusses the precision of the calculation for heat using the first law, which involves a value for initial volume of 5 x 10^-3 m^3. The solution is 54500 J, but there is a debate on whether the final answer should be rounded to 1 significant figure, which would give 60000 J. The conversation also mentions the importance of considering the precision of the chart values for pressure and the conversion between atm and Pa when making calculations.
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Homework Statement
I am confused why the answer to the problem below has more significant figures than it should.
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##\Delta E_{int} = Q - W##
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The solution is, ## Q = 54500 J ## , however, since the calculation for heat uses the first law which involves ##5 \times 10^{-3) m^3 ## value for the initial volume, should the finial answer not be to 1 sig fig as well? This would give ## 60000 J ##.

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Whether it is ##5\cdot 10^{-3}##, ##5.0\cdot 10^{-3}##, ##5.00\cdot 10^{-3}## etc. depends on how precisely you think you can read it off the chart. Similarly the other chart readings. The more limiting precision would be the 30kJ.
 
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haruspex said:
Whether it is ##5\cdot 10^{-3}##, ##5.0\cdot 10^{-3}##, ##5.00\cdot 10^{-3}## etc. depends on how precisely you think you can read it off the chart. Similarly the other chart readings. The more limiting precision would be the 30kJ.
Thank you for your reply @haruspex!

True you make a very valid point! I had not considered that the chart values could have more sig figs that they point.
 
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I think they expect you to observe that at 5 l, the pressure is 50 atm and at 12 l, the pressure is 20 atm, (exactly). They apparently took the conversion between atm and Pa to be 1.00000 rather than 101325.
 
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Chestermiller said:
I think they expect you to observe that at 5 l, the pressure is 50 atm and at 12 l, the pressure is 20 atm, (exactly). They apparently took the conversion between atm and Pa to be 1.00000 rather than 101325.
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FAQ: Significant figures -- wrong answer to Thermodynamics question?

What are significant figures and why are they important in thermodynamics?

Significant figures are the digits in a number that carry meaningful information about its precision. In thermodynamics, they are crucial because they ensure that calculations and measurements are reported with the appropriate level of accuracy, reflecting the precision of the instruments used and the reliability of the data.

How do significant figures affect the results of thermodynamic calculations?

Significant figures affect the precision of thermodynamic calculations. If significant figures are not correctly applied, the results can be misleading. Overestimating the number of significant figures can imply a false sense of accuracy, while underestimating can lead to loss of important detail. Proper use ensures that results are both accurate and reliable.

What is a common mistake related to significant figures in thermodynamics problems?

A common mistake is either rounding too early in the calculations or using an incorrect number of significant figures in intermediate steps. This can propagate errors throughout the calculation, leading to an incorrect final result. It's important to keep track of significant figures at each step and only round off the final answer.

How can I avoid errors related to significant figures in thermodynamics problems?

To avoid errors, always follow the rules for significant figures: use the correct number of significant figures based on the precision of your measurements, carry extra significant figures through intermediate steps, and only round the final result. Additionally, double-check your work to ensure consistency.

Can significant figures change the interpretation of thermodynamic data?

Yes, significant figures can change the interpretation of thermodynamic data. Incorrectly reported significant figures can lead to misinterpretation of the precision and reliability of the data. For example, reporting too many significant figures can suggest a higher precision than actually measured, while too few can obscure important details.

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