Simple gravitational potential energy

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The discussion focuses on calculating the gravitational potential energy (Ug) of a child in a swing at a 30° angle with the vertical. The formula used is Ug = mgy, where y represents the height change from the lowest position. The confusion arises regarding the term "1 - cos(30)", which is necessary to determine the vertical height the child is raised. The correct height (y) is derived from the swing's geometry, specifically the difference between the rope length and the vertical component at the angle. Understanding this height calculation is crucial for accurately determining the potential energy change.
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Homework Statement


A 400-N child is in a swing that is attached to a pair of ropes 2.00 m long. Find the gravitational potential energy of the child-Earth system relative to the child’s lowest position when

(b) the ropes make a 30.0° angle with the vertical

Homework Equations


Ug=mgy

The Attempt at a Solution


b.) Ug = 400N ⋅ 2m(1-cos30)
Ug = 107J

I understand everything about the problem (and was able to do the other parts of it without issue) except where the 1-cos30 comes from. Even drawing it out I just can't visualize where that is coming from. I originally thought that it would just be 2m(cos30) but the answer key says that is wrong.
 
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sireh said:
I understand everything about the problem (and was able to do the other parts of it without issue) except where the 1-cos30 comes from. Even drawing it out I just can't visualize where that is coming from. I originally thought that it would just be 2m(cos30) but the answer key says that is wrong.

i think the potential energy change is initial state when it was at the lowest point and then it was raised to an angle 30 degree- so the the child was raised to certain height and that height matters for P.E. calculation -i.e. your y... so making some triangle with original position and raised position calculate y -the amount of vertical distance raised to be multiplied to the load raised...
 
How much higher is the 30 degree point than the bottom point?
 
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