Simple harmonic motion and energy - yet another answer key disagreement?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a particle in simple harmonic motion along the x-axis, where participants analyze the kinetic and potential energy at specific positions. The original poster presents a scenario with given energies and seeks to determine the energies at a different position, questioning the validity of the provided answer choices.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between total energy, kinetic energy, and potential energy in simple harmonic motion. They question the correctness of their calculations and the answer key, considering the implications of energy conservation and the definitions of potential energy at different positions.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the provided answer choices, while others suggest that the original solution may be valid despite discrepancies with the answer key. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to reconcile the original poster's findings with the expected outcomes.

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There is an emphasis on the total energy of the system and the definitions of kinetic and potential energy at specific points in the motion. Participants note the significance of the reference point for potential energy and the implications of energy conservation in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



A particle is in simple harmonic motion along the x axis. The amplitude of the motion is xm.
When it is at x = x1, its kinetic energy is K = 5J and its potential energy (measured with U = 0 at x = 0) is U = 3J. When it is at x = –1/2xm, the kinetic and potential energies are:

A) K = 5J and U = 3J
B) K = 5J and U = –3J
C) K = 8J and U = 0
D) K = 0 and U = 8J
E) K = 0 and U = –8J

Homework Equations



[tex] E = 1/2kA^2[/tex]

[tex]1/2kA^2 = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2kx^2[/tex]




The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] 1/2kA^2 = 8[/tex]

[tex]1/2mv^2 + 1/2kx^2^ = 8[/tex]

[tex]A = 4/\sqrt{k}[/tex]

[tex]x = -1/2(4/\sqrt{k}) = -2/\sqrt{k}[/tex]

[tex]1/2mv^2 + 1/2k(-2/\sqrt{k})^2^ = 8[/tex]

[tex]1/2mv^2 + 2 = 8[/tex]

[tex]K = 6 J[/tex]

[tex]U = 8 - 6 = 2 J<br /> [/tex]


As you see, this is not one of the choices. Am I doing something wrong?
 
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Sorry about the bad formatting earlier; I have fixed it now.
 
Looking at it, I guess by process of elimination it has to A because energy isn't negative, thus B, C, and E are ruled out. And it cannot have full kinetic energy between equilibrium and amplitude, so D is ruled out.

However, it disagrees with my calculations.
 
Don't you know what the total energy in the system is at x1?

Don't you also know at x = 0 is where U = 0? And also at Xm is where K = 0, so ... which answer meets these requirements?

Edit: Ooops. Looks like you figured it out.
 
It looks to me like your original solution is fine, and the answer key is incorrect...

The total energy is 8J, so [tex]\frac{1}{2}kA^2=8 \, \text{J}[/tex]. And so at [tex]x=\frac{-x_m}{2}=\frac{-A}{2}[/tex] , the potential energy is:

[tex]U(x)=\frac{1}{2}kx^2=\frac{1}{2}k \left( \frac{-A}{2} \right)^2=\frac{1}{4} \left( \frac{1}{2}kA^2 \right)= \frac{1}{4}(8 \, \text{J})=2 \, \text{J}[/tex]
 

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