Simple Harmonic Motion Pendulum, can we use PE=1/2kAmplitude^2?

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The discussion centers on the applicability of the formula Potential Energy = 1/2K(A^2) for a pendulum, particularly when only the angle of displacement is provided. It is clarified that this formula is not suitable for pendulums since it involves a spring constant (k), which does not apply in this context. Instead, the gravitational potential energy of a pendulum bob should be calculated using the formula mgh, where h is the height relative to the lowest point. The relationship between height and horizontal displacement is established using Pythagorean theorem, leading to an effective spring constant defined as mg/L. Overall, the correct approach for pendulum potential energy involves gravitational principles rather than spring mechanics.
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I was wondering if we can somehow use the formula Potential Energy = 1/2K(x(x=Amplitude))^2 for a pendulum if we are only given the angle of displacement?

Would the problems normally just say the PE at the top of the pendulum is such and such, please find max Velocity,
Or also the max velocity is such and such please find max potential energy, or max amplitude.
 
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Your formula for potential energy is not the one usually given in descriptions of a harmonic oscillator, and it is generally unclear what you are asking about. Being more specific could help.
 
hongiddong said:
I was wondering if we can somehow use the formula Potential Energy = 1/2K(x(x=Amplitude))^2 for a pendulum if we are only given the angle of displacement?

Would the problems normally just say the PE at the top of the pendulum is such and such, please find max Velocity,
Or also the max velocity is such and such please find max potential energy, or max amplitude.
No, you can't. ##k## is the spring constant. There is no spring involved with a pendulum.
 
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The k in Hong's formula is an equivalent spring constant. The gravitational PE of the pendulum bob relative to its lowest position is, mgh, in which h is its height relative to its lowest point. It's easy to show by Pythagoras that for small displacements with horizontal component x, for a pendulum of length L, x^2 = 2hL. So the PE of the bob is mgh = \frac{1}{2} \frac{mg}{L} x^2, so the effective spring constant, k, is \frac{mg}{L}.
 
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