Simplifying Fraction: (6x+12y)/(10a+5) * (100a^2-25)/(9x^2-81y^2)

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The discussion focuses on simplifying the expression (6x+12y)/(10a+5) * (100a^2-25)/(9x^2-81y^2). Participants explore various factoring techniques, identifying that 100a^2-25 can be factored as 5(20a^2-5) and 9x^2-81y^2 as 3(3x^2-27y^2). They emphasize the importance of recognizing difference of squares to further simplify the expression. Several attempts at simplification are made, with corrections noted regarding the factors involved. The conversation highlights the necessity of careful factoring and cancellation in rational expressions.
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Homework Statement


Simplify (6x+12y)/(10a +5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2)

Homework Equations


(6x+12y)/(10a +5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2)

The Attempt at a Solution


(6x+12y)/(10a +5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2) =
3(2x+4y)/(10a+5) times (4a - 1)/(3x-27y) = (3(2x+4y))(4a-1)/(5(2a+1))(3(x-9y))
I do not know how to simplify this any further.
 
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science_rules said:

Homework Statement


Simplify (6x+12y)/(10a +5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2)

Homework Equations


(6x+12y)/(10a +5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2)

The Attempt at a Solution


(6x+12y)/(10a +5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2) =
3(2x+4y)/(10a+5) times (10a - 5)/(3x-9y) = (3(2x+4y))(5(2a-1))/(5(2a-1))(3(x-3y))
I do not know how to simplify this any further.
If you learn a little bit of LaTeX, you can make this look nicer.

How did ##\displaystyle \ \frac{(100a^2-25)}{(9x^2-81y^2)} \ ## become ##\displaystyle \ \frac{(10a-5)}{(3x-9y)} \ ## ?
 
SammyS said:
If you learn a little bit of LaTeX, you can make this look nicer.

How did ##\displaystyle \ \frac{(100a^2-25)}{(9x^2-81y^2)} \ ## become ##\displaystyle \ \frac{(10a-5)}{(3x-9y)} \ ## ?
Let me try this again and see what I come up with
 
SammyS said:
If you learn a little bit of LaTeX, you can make this look nicer.

How did ##\displaystyle \ \frac{(100a^2-25)}{(9x^2-81y^2)} \ ## become ##\displaystyle \ \frac{(10a-5)}{(3x-9y)} \ ## ?
(6x+12y)/(10a+5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2) = (3(x+4y))/(5(2a+1)) times (5(20a2 - 5))/(3(3x2 - 27y2))
 
science_rules said:
(6x+12y)/(10a+5) times (100a2 - 25)/(9x2 - 81y2) = (3(x+4y))/(5(2a+1)) times (5(20a2 - 5))/(3(3x2 - 27y2))
Let's look at the individual factors, (individual numerators & denominators).

The first fraction is fine, both numerator & denominator are totally factored.

You can factor out an additional 5 from 100a2 - 25 = 5(20a2 - 5), which will get you back to a difference of squares for one of the factors, and thus can be factored even further.

Similarly, you can factor out an additional 3 from 9x2 - 81y2 = 3(3x2 - 27y2), which will get you back to a difference of squares for one of the factors, and thus can be factored even further.

Then put all into one grand rational expression ("fraction") & do some further cancelling.
 
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I think i made a mistake: (3(x+4y))/(5(2a+1)) times (5(20a2 - 5))/(3(3x2 - 27y2))
(3(x+4y)) should have been: (3(2x+4y))
 
science_rules said:
I think i made a mistake: (3(x+4y))/(5(2a+1)) times (5(20a2 - 5))/(3(3x2 - 27y2))
(3(x+4y)) should have been: (3(2x+4y))
Right.

You had that part correct previously.
 
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SammyS said:
Let's look at the individual factors, (individual numerators & denominators).

The first fraction is fine, both numerator & denominator are totally factored.

You can factor out an additional 5 from 100a2 - 25 = 5(20a2 - 5), which will get you back to a difference of squares for one of the factors, and thus can be factored even further.

Similarly, you can factor out an additional 3 from 9x2 - 81y2 = 3(3x2 - 27y2), which will get you back to a difference of squares for one of the factors, and thus can be factored even further.

Then put all into one grand rational expression ("fraction") & do some further cancelling.

The only factoring I can see to do is: (5(20a2 + 5))/(3(3x2 - 27y2)) = (4a2 +1)/(x2 - 9y2) and then put these together: (3(2x + 4y))(4a2 + 1)/(5(2a +1))(x2-9y2)
 
science_rules said:
The only factoring I can see to do is: (5(20a2 + 5))/(3(3x2 - 27y2)) = (4a2 +1)/(x2 - 9y2) and then put these together: (3(2x + 4y))(4a2 + 1)/(5(2a +1))(x2-9y2)
You can't just drop factors for no reason.

Start with 5(20a2 - 5) = 5⋅5(4a2 -1) . (Yes, that is subtraction.)

Do you know how to factor a difference of squares?

Similarly, 3(3x2 - 27y2) = 3⋅3(x2 - 9y2) . Also has a difference of squares.
 
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