Simplifying Square Roots of a Parametrized Path

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To find the arclength of the parametrized path x(t) = (t^2)/2 and y(t) = (t^3)/3 for 1<t<3, the derivatives are x' = t and y' = t^2. The arc length formula leads to the expression sqrt(t^2 + t^4), which can be simplified to t sqrt(t^2 + 1). The confusion regarding the quadratic formula is unnecessary, as the integral can be solved using substitution instead. The final answer is (10sqrt(10)-2sqrt(2))/3.
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Homework Statement



Find the arclength of the parametrized path x(t) = (t^2)/2 , y(t) = (t^3)/3 for 1<t<3.

Homework Equations



Arc Length Formula

The Attempt at a Solution



x'=t and y'=t^2.

Putting them into the arc length formula, I get sqrt(t^2 + t^4) inside.

I'm confused about how to simplify this part. The answer (10sqrt(10)-2sqrt(2))/3 suggests the quadratic formula somewhere along the way. I could probably pull out a variable into sqrt(t^2(t^2 + 1)) or tsqrt(t^2+1) but how do I use the quadratic equation in this case?
 
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mill said:

Homework Statement



Find the arclength of the parametrized path x(t) = (t^2)/2 , y(t) = (t^3)/3 for 1<t<3.

Homework Equations



Arc Length Formula

The Attempt at a Solution



x'=t and y'=t^2.

Putting them into the arc length formula, I get sqrt(t^2 + t^4) inside.

I'm confused about how to simplify this part. The answer (10sqrt(10)-2sqrt(2))/3 suggests the quadratic formula somewhere along the way. I could probably pull out a variable into sqrt(t^2(t^2 + 1)) or tsqrt(t^2+1) but how do I use the quadratic equation in this case?

You don't use the quadratic equation. You just integrate ##t \sqrt{t^2+1}##. It's not hard, just do it by a substitution.
 
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Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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