Simulation of a double layer capacitance and a warburg impedance with comsol

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The discussion revolves around implementing a COMSOL simulation for impedance spectroscopy, focusing on simulating double layer capacitance and Warburg impedance. The user is struggling with boundary conditions, specifically wanting to apply a distributed impedance between an electrode and a water drop, but is encountering issues with potential differences not behaving as expected. Additionally, there is confusion about incorporating the Warburg impedance equation into the boundary conditions and how to define frequency within the simulation. Another participant offers guidance on defining frequency and the parameters for the double layer region, indicating progress in resolving the initial problems. Overall, the conversation highlights common challenges faced by beginners in COMSOL simulations for electrochemical applications.
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Hallo,
i'm trying to implement a comsol simulation of a impedance spectroscopy experiment.
But unfortunatly I'm an absolut beginner in Comsol and i have many problems with this work.

First of all i want to say that I'm using the AC/DC module, more precisely the transient analysis.
At the moment I'm using a simple 2D geometry to try out all equations and boundary conditions.


Now to the first problem:
I tried to simulate only a double layer capacitance between an electrode and a drop of water. The double layer thickness is very small compared to the dimensions of the electrodes, so I didn't want to draw it, but use a distributed impedance for the boundary condition between the electrode and the drop of water.
The other boundary conditions are:
Potential V= sin(10*t) on the left side of the electrode.
Potential V= -sin(10*t) on the right side of the drop of water.
All other boundaries are electrical insulated.
But it wasn't sucessfuly, I always receive the whole potencial difference over the drop of water and not over the distributed impedance.


The second problem is that I have no idea how to bring the warburg impedance equation into the boundary conditions.
The equation is something like Z= sigma/sqrt(w)*(1-j), but where do I place that and how can i express w?


Finaly remains the question, if it is possible to make the simulations automatic over a defined range of frequencies and to calculate a complex impedance out of the result.

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Comsol1: result, up a simulation with a drawed double layer, down the distributed impedance.
Comsol2: the boundary condition for the distributed impedance
Comsol3: the boundary condition of the electrode


thanke you for your help
and sorry for my bad english

cu FirePhoenix
 

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Hi!
I am about to do some simulations of impedance spectroscopy as well. Have you overcome the problems you have mentioned?


Mike
 
I'm still working on it.

But at the moment it looks good.

You have to define the frequency over the scalar variable: nu_emqvw,
and then define the epsilon_r and the sigma of the doublelayer region as:

A0_CPE= 1e-6; (use the value of your measurements)
psi_CPE= 0.5; (0.5 for warburg impedance)

sigma= (sig_DL+ A0_CPE*(2*pi*frequenz).^psi_CPE*cos(psi_CPE*pi/2));
epsilon_r= e_DL+ A0_CPE/(epsilon_0)*(2*pi*frequenz).^(psi_CPE-1)*sin(psi_CPE*pi/2);

lg
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