Skater. Angular Momentum. Velocity.

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The problem involves a skater who brings her arms in close during a spin, prompting questions about the effects on her angular momentum and angular velocity. The subject area pertains to angular momentum and rotational dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between moment of inertia and angular velocity, questioning how changes in radius affect angular momentum. Some express differing opinions on the correct answer choices and the implications of external forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some have offered insights into the conservation of angular momentum, while others are questioning the role of external forces and the definitions involved.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of ignoring external forces such as friction and gravity, which raises questions about the assumptions being made in the analysis of angular momentum.

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Homework Statement



10. A skater brings her arms in close to her body during a spin. What is the effect on her
angular momentum and angular velocity?

A) Angular momentum increases, velocity increases.
B) Angular momentum decreases, velocity decreases.
C) Angular momentum remains constant, velocity increases.
D) There is insufficient information to tell what will happen

Homework Equations



L = Iω
ω = v / r

The Attempt at a Solution



By bringing her arms in closer, she is decreasing the radius of her moment of inertia. As "r" gets smaller, v gets larger so ω becomes larger. When ω becomes larger, L is larger too because they're directly proportional. I choose "A." Do you all agree?
 
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No. What external forces are at work here? (I assume friction is being ignored.)
 
PeachBanana said:
By bringing her arms in closer, she is decreasing the radius of her moment of inertia.
and what effect does that have on her moment of inertia?
 
tms - Erm, gravity?

rcgldr - I = Mr^2 for a point mass so that decreases I.

ω * r = v

I just said "r" decreased. Perhaps letter "B" is a better choice.
 
external forces
PeachBanana said:
gravity?
Yes, but is that affecting the angular momentum? If no external force is affecting angular momentum, then what usually happens with angular momentum.

what happens when skater pull in her arms
PeachBanana said:
I = Mr^2 for a point mass so that decreases I.
So what do you think happens with angular momentum?
 
rcgldr - When no external forces are acting, angular momentum is conserved. But if "I" decreases, "L" should too.
 
PeachBanana said:
rcgldr - When no external forces are acting, angular momentum is conserved. But if "I" decreases, "L" should too.
If angular momentum is conserved and "I" decreases, then what should happen with ω ?
 
Angular momentum must increase to compensate for that. I was thinking of "v" and not "ω." So if someone came along and pushed the skater, would that be an external force?

"C."
 
rcgldr said:
If angular momentum is conserved and "I" decreases, then what should happen with ω ?

PeachBanana said:
Angular momentum must increase to compensate for that.
Did you mean that angular velocity must increase (since angular momentum is conserved)?
 
  • #10
C.is correct:angular momentum remains constant,velocity increase because radius decrease...
 
  • #11
rcgldr - Yes. That's what I should have typed. Sorry about that.
 
  • #12
PeachBanana said:
tms - Erm, gravity?

Which is exactly countered by the force of the ice on the skater, thus no net external force. Unless, perhaps, the skater is boring a hole through the ice, but I think we can ignore that possibility.
 

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