Sledding Down a Hill - Speed Calculation

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The problem involves calculating the speed of a sled moving down a hill after being pushed up at a constant velocity. The sled experiences friction, which is a percentage of its weight, and the discussion centers around the forces acting on the sled as it transitions from moving up to moving down the hill.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on the sled while moving up and down the hill, leading to a discussion about the resulting acceleration when the sled is pushed down. Some participants question whether the acceleration calculation is correct and suggest deriving an expression for velocity over time.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations and suggesting further steps to find the sled's velocity. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematic formulas due to the constant acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of friction and the angle of the hill in their calculations, as well as the direction of forces when analyzing the sled's motion.

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Homework Statement


Say you push a sled of mass m up a hill that is angled upwards at a certain angle \theta at a constant velocity. The hill has snow on it offering a friction force that is equal to 30% of the sleds weight. If you pushed the sled down the hill with the same amount of force as you did pushing the sled up the hill, how fast does it go down the hill?

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The Attempt at a Solution



So, since the sled is moving up the hill at a constant velocity, the net force on the sled must be zero.
This also means that the force with which you push is equal to the friction force \mu added to mg sin \theta.

So: F_{push}= \mu + mgsin \theta=.30mg+mg sin \theta= mg(.30+sin \theta).

If I push the sled down the hill with force F_{push} then the sled will accelerate.

Since the frictional force now points in the opposite direction when I push the sled down the hill, I will have:

\mu-F_{push}-mgsin \theta = ma which means ma=.30mg-mg(.30+sin \theta ) -mg sin \theta

So, the sled accelerates down the hill with acceleration a=-2g sin \theta.

Is this correct?
 
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Looks good. You might want to finish with an expression for the velocity with respect to time, as the problem did ask for how fast it goes.
 
gneill said:
Looks good. You might want to finish with an expression for the velocity with respect to time, as the problem did ask for how fast it goes.
Shall I integrate a?
 
You could. Although, since the acceleration is constant you might just use a standard kinematic formula.
 
Thanks for the help gneill
 
DeldotB said:
##\mu-F_{push}-mgsin \theta = ma##
Yes, if you are taking the positive direction for a as up the slope (which is why you got a negative acceleration at the end).
 

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