Small Body on a Sphere loss of contact

AI Thread Summary
A small body on a smooth sphere is analyzed to determine when it will lose contact as the sphere accelerates horizontally at 9.8 m/s². The discussion focuses on combining gravitational and pseudo-forces to simplify calculations, with the body initially positioned at a 45-degree angle. Participants explore the resultant forces, noting that both forces can be treated as equal and perpendicular, leading to a net force of 9.8 m/s². The conversation highlights the importance of considering the tangential components of these forces to understand the conditions for losing contact with the sphere. The effective gravity concept is clarified, emphasizing its applicability throughout the sphere's reference frame.
jill2040
Messages
6
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A small body is set on the surface of a smooth sphere at an angle of 45 degrees from the center. At this point the sphere is given a constant acceleration in the horizontal direction of 9.8 m/s/s. There is more in the question, but the goal is to find when the body will leave the circle.

Homework Equations



I'm wondering if from the s' frame I can treat the accelerations from psuedoforce due to the sphere's acceleration and the force from gravity as one acceleration toward the center of the sphere for the first quadrant. Since both equal 9.8 m/s/s, I want to simplify dealing with the normal force with a centripetal acceleration of 9.8 m/s/s.

The Attempt at a Solution



I figure since where ever the body lies on that quadrant, the force from gravity will be the sin and the psuedoforce from the acceleration will be the cos of the same angle. Thus, the net force from the two would be
=sqrt( {9.8sinx}^2 + {9.8cosx)^2 )
=sqrt( 9.8^2 {sin^2x + cos^2c} ) and the cos and sin squares would equal 1
=sqrt ( 9.8^2 ) which just equals 9.8

Does this make sense or am I missing something?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
hi jill2040! :smile:
jill2040 said:
I figure since where ever the body lies on that quadrant, the force from gravity will be the sin and the psuedoforce from the acceleration will be the cos of the same angle. Thus, the net force from the two would be …

[STRIKE]looks fine to me![/STRIKE]

though a simpler way of putting it would be to say that the two "forces" are equal and perpendicular, so their resultant is at 45° :smile:

EDIT: oops, no, it's not fine, i answered too quickly :redface:

i think you intended to find the component of each force in the tangential direction, and add them …

in that case, they're the same component, and you just add them (sin45° + cos45°) :wink:
 
Last edited:
So as the sphere accelerates horizontally (and is not rotating I believe) the normal force as the body moves along the surface in the first quadrant is not just equal to m*9.8 m/s/s? I ask because the body starts at 45° and the question wants to know when it would leave the surface.
 
in the reference frame of the sphere (ie, in which the sphere is stationary), the effective gravity is the resultant of g downward and g horizontally …

a total magnitude of … in the … direction? :smile:
 
Ah, the effective gravity won't do what I'm describing, it will only appear that way at one point, which is where I probably got my notion.
 
jill2040 said:
Ah, the effective gravity won't do what I'm describing …

no, effective gravity is valid for the whole of space! (in the frame of the sphere) :smile:
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top