Solubility of tartaric acid/sodium tartrate in high vs low pH

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Tartaric acid and sodium tartrate exhibit increased solubility in high pH solutions due to their dissociation behavior, as explained by Le Chatelier's principle. In low pH environments, the presence of excess H+ ions shifts the equilibrium towards the reactants, reducing solubility. Conversely, in high pH conditions, OH- ions facilitate the dissociation of tartaric acid, enhancing solubility. The pKa values of tartaric acid, at 2.9 and 4.4, indicate that at high pH, the compound is more likely to be fully dissociated. Overall, the solubility of tartaric acid and sodium tartrate is significantly influenced by the pH of the solution.
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So we did a lab in organic chemistry where we did a resolution experiment for enantiomers and in the separatory funnel we had sodium tartrate/tartaric acid left in the aqueous phase of the funnel. It asks why this compound is more soluble in high ph solutions as compared to low ph solution.

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H2C4H4O6(aq) + H2O(l) = H30+(aq) + HC4H4O6-(aq) - disassociation reaction

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The only think i could think of was in terms of le chatelier's principle where you dissociate less in a low ph solution due to excess H+ already present pushing equilibrium towards the reactants, while in a high ph solution the OH- will react with the H+ pushing equilibrium towards the products.
 
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roneddy said:
The only think i could think of was in terms of le chatelier's principle where you dissociate less in a low ph solution due to excess H+ already present pushing equilibrium towards the reactants, while in a high ph solution the OH- will react with the H+ pushing equilibrium towards the products.
Bingo.
 
Ognib! I don't think that answer even if what it says is true is actually by itself explaining anything about the solubility..

About your formula by the way the pKas of tartaric acid are 2.9 and 4.4 so at high pH it will be doubly dissociated.
 
I really can't think of anything else that would allow it to be more soluble in high ph as compared to low ph.
 
I'm not saying it needs another explanation, I'm saying it needs an explanation. Yours does not amount to an explanation. Maybe there was one in your head and you have forgotten to write some essential part of it.

For what you say about reactants and products, Well what you call reactants and what you call products is arbitrary. Write your equation the other way round and products become reactants and vice versa. Then the same words that you use would give the opposite conclusion.
 
epenguin said:
Ognib!
Phenol solubilities in successively stronger bases, bicarbonate < carbonate < hydroxide; I say again, "Bingo."
 
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