Solution to Quartic Equation with small first coefficient

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The discussion focuses on solving a depressed quartic equation with a small first coefficient, specifically exploring an approximation method by expanding around the quadratic solution. The approach involves solving the quadratic equation first and then substituting its roots back into the quartic to find further solutions. Concerns are raised about whether this method captures all solutions, particularly the large ones that may arise when the coefficient 'a' is small. The participants note that while the quartic solutions appear to converge to the quadratic solutions, the recursion may not always yield small results. Additionally, using Newton's method is suggested as a more straightforward and efficient alternative for finding solutions.
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I want to solve a depressed quartic:

ax^4 + bx^2 + cx + d = 0

Assume |a|\ll |b|,|c|,|d|.

I would like to find the solutions by expanding around the solution to the quadratic. If you try to solve in, say, Maple, and expand around a in a series you get something that blows up. That seems silly to me, why would the solution blow up as a\rightarrow 0. Only because the solution method assumed a was not zero. Clearly, if you plotted it on the complex plane, the quartic solutions must approach the quadratic. Anyway, so my idea was to solve the quadratic equation

bx^2+cx+d=0 to get

x_0 = \frac{-c\pm\sqrt{c^2-4bd}}{2b}

Then insert x_0 into the quartic part like so,

ax_0^4 + bx^2+cx+d = 0

Then solve this quadratic to get,

x_1 = \frac{-c\pm\sqrt{c^2-4b(d+ax_0^4)}}{2b}.

Does anyone see a problem with this approach (assuming I just want some sort of approximation)?

Secondly, this question just occurred to me: I see this generates 4 solutions, but will all solutions be closer to the exact solutions than the initial quadratic solutions are?
 
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Small a will lead to two large solutions, which you do not catch with that approach. The solutions you can get are close to the solutions for a=0. If a is small enough and the other coefficients are not special in some way, I would expect that the last recursion relation converges.
 
mfb said:
Small a will lead to two large solutions, which you do not catch with that approach. The solutions you can get are close to the solutions for a=0. If a is small enough and the other coefficients are not special in some way, I would expect that the last recursion relation converges.

Yes, I just thought of that too. The quartic solution x would be proportional to 1/a^(1/4) unfortunately, so that term would not be "small" after all.
 
Take this special case though: I'm only interested in the cases where a>0, b>0, c real, and d< 0. There should be (by Descartes rule of signs) two real solutions. When I plot the graph, the solutions of the quartic appear to converge to the quadratic solutions. So it appears that my recursion would be valid in that case. [No proof yet though.]
 
With a>0, b>0, d<0 and c not too large, the two "large" solutions are imaginary, as they lie in the region where bx^2+cx+d is positive.
 
Why not just use Newton's method with x0 as an initial guess? This is easy to set up, and should converge rapidly.
 
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