Solve Ballistic Pendulum Homework: Conservation of Energy & Momentum

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The discussion revolves around solving a ballistic pendulum problem involving a 2.3 kg wood block and a 1.3 kg rod, with a bullet of 12 g fired into the block. The pendulum swings to an angle of 35 degrees after the collision, necessitating the application of conservation of energy and momentum principles. The user initially calculated the velocity of the block and bullet system post-collision as 4.568 m/s, but encountered confusion regarding the height calculation for the center of mass, realizing that the height 'h' should be derived from the change in height of the system's center of mass rather than a simple trigonometric calculation. The user seeks clarification on using the center of mass for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 2.3 kg wood block hangs from the bottom of a 1.3 kg, 1.3 m long rod. The block and rod form a pendulum that swings on a frictionless pivot at the top end of the rod. A 12 g bullet is fired into the block, where it sticks, causing the pendulum to swing out to a 35 degrees.


Homework Equations


Conservation of Energy.
Conservation of Momentum

The Attempt at a Solution



(1/2)(m)(v^2) = mgh

Drawing a triangle, h is 1.3 * cos 35 = 1.06m

So (1/2)(v^2) = (9.8)(1.06)
v = 4.568 m/s

Conservation of momentum:

(mB)(vB) = (mB + mP)(v)
(.012)vB = (2.3+.012)(4.568)
vB = 10.561 / .012 = 880.21 m/s

Not sure where I went wrong.
 
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"h" has to be the amount by which the system's center of mass increased in height. It's not equal to 1.3*cos35 because the pendulum itself isn't massless.
 
Note: actually, h isn't equal to 1.3*cos35 even if the pendulum were massless.
 
h would have been L - Lcos35 if it were massless. That's my slip up.

But back to the question at hand, though, I'm lost now. Would I have to use the center of mass of the pendulum and the block? That sounds complicated.

Is there another way I could do it?
 

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