Solve Final Speed of Ice Sliding Down Slope

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The problem involves a block of ice sliding down an inclined plane, with the goal of determining its final speed after traveling a specified distance. The context includes concepts from mechanics, specifically work and energy, as well as forces acting on an object on an incline.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces acting on the block, particularly the distinction between the perpendicular and parallel components of weight on an incline. There is an exploration of the work-energy principle and how it applies to the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants expressing confusion about the correct approach to finding the force components. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to focus on the parallel component of the weight for this scenario. There is a recognition of differing results among participants, indicating a variety of interpretations being explored.

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Participants note the requirement to solve the problem using work concepts rather than kinematics, which adds a layer of complexity to their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A block of ice with mass 2.0 kg slides 0.90 m down an inclined plane that slopes downward at an angle of 27° below the horizontal. If the block of ice starts from rest, what is its final speed? Friction can be neglected.

m = 2.0 kg
s = 0.90 m
θ = 27°

Homework Equations



W = Fs
W = ΔKE
ΔKE = 0.5m(vf2 - vi2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the equations given, I began with the following:
Fs = 0.5m(vf2 - vi2)

Then, because the ice is on a slope, I calculated the force acting on the block:
F = mgcosθ
F = (2.0 kg)(9.81 m/s2)cos(27°)
F = 17.48 N

Plugging all of the variables into the equation, now:
(17.48 N)(0.90 m) = 0.5(2.0 kg)(vf2 - (0 m/s)2)
vf = 3.97 m/s

Apparently, though, this is incorrect. I'm not sure why.

As a side note, I know how to solve the problem using kinematics, but this topic is introducing work, so we have to solve the problem as such.
 
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hyemal.zephyr said:
Then, because the ice is on a slope, I calculated the force acting on the block:
F = mgcosθ
That's the component of the weight perpendicular to the surface; you want the component parallel to the surface.
 
Yes, I got 2.83 m/s, which is apparently the correct answer. Thank you.

Though, why is that, exactly? It being the perpendicular component, that is. I've understood that as the parallel component and I've always seemed to do well with it.
 
hyemal.zephyr said:
Though, why is that, exactly? It being the perpendicular component, that is. I've understood that as the parallel component and I've always seemed to do well with it.
You need to review how to find components. See: http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/vectors/u3l3e.cfm"
 
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Oh, I see what I've been doing incorrectly. Hah, I feel like a moron now.

Thank you very much.
 

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