Solve for y: Exponential Logarithm log8(9y+14)=6x6-11 | Step-by-Step Solution

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation log8(9y+14)=6x6-11. Participants debate the validity of various steps in manipulating logarithmic expressions, particularly the incorrect application of logarithmic properties. The consensus is to avoid unnecessary logarithmic transformations and focus on algebraic solutions instead. A correct approach is suggested, leading to the simplified form y=(6x6-25)/9. The importance of clear notation and proper logarithmic rules is emphasized throughout the conversation.
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log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
9y+14=86x6-11
ln(9y+14)=ln86x6-11
ln9y+ln14=(6x6-11)ln8
ln9y=(6x6-11)ln8-ln14
y=((6x6-11)ln8-ln14)/ln9

is this equation correct??
 
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fr33pl4gu3 said:
New Question:

log8(9y + 14) = 6x6-11
9y+14 = 86x6-11

The next step is it by entering this step??

You have y on the LHS, just solve for it. Why would you continue to take the logarithm?

fr33pl4gu3 said:
log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
9y+14=86x6-11
ln(9y+14)=ln86x6-11
ln9y+ln14=(6x6-11)ln8
ln9y=(6x6-11)ln8-ln14
y=((6x6-11)ln8-ln14)/ln9

is this equation correct??

That is not correct. ln(a+b) =/= ln(a) + ln(b). I think you should take another look at what a logarithm means and not a rule sheet.
 
log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
9y+14=86x6-11
ln(9y+14)=ln86x6-11
ln126y=(6x6-11) ln8
y=((6x6-11) ln8)/ln126

Then is this correct??
 
When multiply the log sign, can i just multiply one side??
 
fr33pl4gu3 said:
9y+14=86x6-11

You seem to be over complicating things. From here just do some simple algebra to solve for y.
 
9y + 14 = log86x6-log11
= log86x6 /log11
9y = log86x6 /log11 - 14
y = (1/9)log86x6 /log11 - (14 / 9)

Is this correct??
 
fr33pl4gu3 said:
9y + 14 = log86x6-log11
= log86x6 /log11
No. lod a- log b is not log a/log b. It is log a/b

9y = log86x6 /log11 - 14
y = (1/9)log86x6 /log11 - (14 / 9)

Is this correct??
 
9y + 14 = log86x6 -log11
= log86x6 /11
9y = (log86x6 /11) - 14
y = ((1/9)log86x6 /11) - (14 / 9)

Then, this would be correct, right??
 
Usually, how does an equation have the condition of b(logbu) =u??
 
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fr33pl4gu3 said:
9y + 14 = log86x6 -log11
= log86x6 /11
9y = (log86x6 /11) - 14
y = ((1/9)log86x6 /11) - (14 / 9)

Then, this would be correct, right??

Um, HallsofIvy explained why you CANNOT have that. Also please use parentheses and clear up the notation. You have no idea how frustrating it is to read logarithms without parentheses around the arguments, i.e. use the form ln(the expression inside of here).

Start with the line that epkid08 quoted you on and simply solve for y. Don't take anymore logarithms!
 
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fr33pl4gu3 said:
Usually, how does an equation have the condition of b(logbu) =u??

Ask yourself what logbu stands for. If your answer included the word exponent, then it's likely you'll immediately see that it holds by definition!
 
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The previous solution start off incorrectly, so i start off a new one, but there were all wrong, such as below:

log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
8log8(9y+14) =86x6-11
9y+14=6x6-11
9y=6x6-25
y=(6x6-25)/9
 
  • #13
fr33pl4gu3 said:
The previous solution start off incorrectly, so i start off a new one, but there were all wrong, such as below:

log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
8log8(9y+14) =86x6-11
9y+14=6x6-11
Yes, 8log_8(9y+ 14)= 9y+ 14 but what happened to the base 8 on the right side?

9y+ 14= 8^{6x^6- 11}
That's easy to solve for y.

9y=6x6-25
y=(6x6-25)/9
 
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