Solve Gas Laws Questions: Density, Mass, Volume, Pressure

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The discussion revolves around gas laws, specifically focusing on problems related to density, mass, volume, and pressure of gases. The original poster presents two distinct scenarios involving air density and the behavior of a gas bubble under varying pressures in a lake.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to solve two problems using gas laws but expresses confusion regarding the methods. Some participants suggest using Boyle's law for the second problem and discuss the hydrostatic pressure formula to determine pressures at different depths.

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Participants are actively exploring the application of gas laws to the problems presented. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Boyle's law and hydrostatic pressure, with requests for further clarification on the latter. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being discussed, particularly regarding the calculations involved.

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The original poster indicates a lack of understanding of the concepts and calculations involved, particularly for the second problem. There is mention of needing to determine pressures at different depths, which may require additional information or assumptions about the fluid properties.

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1. The density of air is 1.3g/L at standard conditions of 101kPa and 0 degrees celsius. determine the mass of 3.0 L of air at a pressure of 138.2 kPa and a temp of 273 degrees celsius.

2. One atmosphere of air pressure supports a column of water approximately 10.3 m high. A 2.0-cm^3 bubble of air is released by a diver working 62.4 m below the surface of a deep lake. If its temp remains constant, what is the volume of the bubble as it reaches the surface? the pressure on the surface of the lake is one atm.


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i need help with bother of these. alli know is that you use the gas laws.


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for the first one...i worked at it with a friend at we(mostly him) got i think 21 grams? i left my answer sheet in school but it was around there. He never really got to explain it to me so I am confused. And for the second I am sorry but i have no idea even how to start that one.
 
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tommy1 said:
2. One atmosphere of air pressure supports a column of water approximately 10.3 m high. A 2.0-cm^3 bubble of air is released by a diver working 62.4 m below the surface of a deep lake. If its temp remains constant, what is the volume of the bubble as it reaches the surface? the pressure on the surface of the lake is one atm.

You can use Boyle-Mariotte law here (p_{1}V_{1}=p_{2}V_{2}), since the temperature remains constant. You only need to determine pressures on the surface and at the given depth using the formula for hydrostatic pressure (p=\rho g h).
 
Dr. Jekyll said:
You can use Boyle-Mariotte law here (p_{1}V_{1}=p_{2}V_{2}), since the temperature remains constant. You only need to determine pressures on the surface and at the given depth using the formula for hydrostatic pressure (p=\rho g h).

can you explain that second equation a little more indepth please
 
The second equation is for the hydrostatic pressure. It is caused by the weight of the fluid (density rho) above the certain depth (h).

You say that one atmosphere pressure is equal to hydrostaic pressure 10.3 m below water. For example, the same thing is equal to hydrostatic pressure 735 mm under mercury (735 mmHg).

So, all you need is to calculate pressure under water (since you know the one on the surface, p_{0}): p=p_{0}+\rho g h. You can also do the whole thing without even calculating the pressures (only with heights) if you write the equations in different way.
 

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