Solve the Integral: \int\frac{9x}{\sqrt{6x-x^2}}dx

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The problem involves evaluating the integral \(\int\frac{9x}{\sqrt{6x-x^2}}dx\), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integral calculus. Participants are exploring various methods to simplify and solve the integral.

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  • Participants have attempted completing the square and trigonometric substitution but found these methods complicated. Some suggest rewriting the integral to facilitate integration, while others propose manipulating the numerator to align with the derivative of the denominator. Questions arise about the effectiveness of different approaches and whether a simpler method exists.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and suggesting alternative methods. Some have reported success with specific approaches, while others are still exploring different strategies. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but several productive directions have been identified.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the integral and questioning the assumptions behind their chosen methods. There is mention of homework constraints and the need for hints rather than complete solutions.

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This one has me stumped.

[tex]\int\frac{9x}{\sqrt{6x-x^2}}dx[/tex]

I've tried completeing the square in the root and using trig substitution, but that made it really complicated. Also tried to rationalize the denominator, but to know avail. Any hints?
 
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G01 said:
This one has me stumped.

[tex]\int\frac{9x}{\sqrt{6x-x^2}}dx[/tex]

I've tried completeing the square in the root and using trig substitution, but that made it really complicated. Also tried to rationalize the denominator, but to know avail. Any hints?

There might be a fancier way, but try this:
[tex]\int\frac{9x}{\sqrt{6x-x^2}}dx[/tex]

[tex]=\int \frac{9x}{\sqrt x \sqrt{6-x}}dx[/tex]

[tex]= \int \frac{9 \sqrt x}{\sqrt{6-x}} dx[/tex]

Then use a substitution: [tex]y = \sqrt{6-x}[/tex]. You should get a form that you can do a trig substitution on.

-Dan
 
We want to change the numerator into something "nicer", so the integration will be easier. Try this...

[tex]\frac{9x}{\sqrt{6x-x^2}} = (\frac{-9}{2}) (\frac{(6-2x)-6}{\sqrt{6x-x^2}})[/tex]
 
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ok i got this does this seem right?

[tex]54\sin^{-1}(\frac{\sqrt{6-x}}{\sqrt{6}}) + \frac{\sqrt{x^2 - 6x}}{6} + C[/tex]
 
wait I am trying your way now pizzaky
 
got it your way pizzaky, that was very easy. I am pretty sure its right.
 
So basically, if the expression you need to integrate is of the form [tex]\frac{linear}{quadratic} or \frac{linear}{\sqrt{quadratic}}[/tex], we try to get something like the differentiated version of the quadratic expression into the numerator.

Remember to add a factor in front of the numerator (in this case [tex]\frac{-9}{2}[/tex]) so that your numerator will consist of the differentiated version of the denominator and only a constant, which makes integration easier.

By the way, is your final answer the same as what you wrote above?
 
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Completing the square and using the substitution [itex]x=3\sin t +3[/itex] is a very elegant way to do it...

Daniel.
 

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