Solve Work-Energy Problem: Stone Thrown at Mango Tree

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The problem involves a stone thrown at a mango tree, where the stone's final velocity upon impact is given as 9.8 m/s. The scenario includes considerations of energy, specifically that the boy uses half the energy needed to reach the height of the mango, which has a mass of 250 grams.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the energy usage stated in the problem, questioning the clarity of the wording. Some suggest that the final kinetic energy of the stone should be interpreted as half of the initial kinetic energy used by the boy to throw the stone. Others propose using conservation of energy as a potential method to analyze the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem's wording and the implications of energy conservation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of energy principles, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation or solution approach.

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There is uncertainty regarding the phrasing of the problem, particularly about the energy dynamics involved. The mass of the mango is mentioned, but its relevance to the problem's solution is questioned by participants.

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Homework Statement



A stone is thrown keeping target to a mango hanging in the branch of a mango tree. The velocity of the stone while hitting the mango is 9.8ms^-1. If the boy uses half of the energy used before the stone can reach the same height of the mango. Mass of the mango is 250gm.

Homework Equations


v^2=u^2-2gh


The Attempt at a Solution


According to the question the final velocity of the stone hitting the mango should be 9.8ms^-1. The velocity with which the boy projected the stone vertically should be greater than 9.8ms^-1 since it should be enough to counteract the gravitational acceleration. So we can say that the kinetic energy the the stone gains is half the kinetic energy the boy uses to project the stone. The workout is shown below and if I make any silly mistakes or misinterpret the question please point out my mistake and please see if the answer I got is reasonable enough
Let the velocity with which the boy projects the stone be v1
final velocity of the stone v2=9.8ms^-1
According to first condition
Ek1/2=Ek2
v1^2/2= v^2
v1= √2 v2
Hence, v1= 13.86ms^-1≈

v2^2=v1^2-2gh or, (9.8)^2= (13.86)^2-19.6h or, 96.04-192.1= -19.6h or, h= 96.06/19.6
h= 4.9meters
Sorry, I don't have the answer to this prob in my book so I have to make sure if this is the correct one..
 
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If the boy uses half of the energy.. ??

The question doesn't make much sense. Can you check the wording.
 
That is the part which I found bewildering to understand but I think what the question meant is that the final kinetic energy of the stone hitting the mango becomes half the kinetic energy of the boy that he uses to project the stone vertically . Then the whole problem makes sense...
 
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...if you assume that the weight of the Mango is given just to confuse you.

Assuming you are correct then another way to solve the problem is to apply conservation of energy... the PE gain is where the other half of the initial energy went so.

mgh = 0.5 * 0.5mV12

then substitute V1 with √2 V2
 

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