Solving an absolute value inequality

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The problem involves solving the absolute value inequality |x/(x-2)| < 5. Participants are exploring the implications of this inequality and the necessary steps to isolate x.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the inequality into two separate cases: x/(x-2) < 5 and x/(x-2) > -5. There is confusion regarding the manipulation of these inequalities, particularly when the denominator may affect the direction of the inequality.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on rewriting the inequality in a more manageable form, suggesting the use of a common denominator. However, there is still uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the results and the conditions under which the inequalities hold.

Contextual Notes

Participants are questioning the validity of their derived intervals, particularly the inconsistency in the results suggesting x < 5/3 and x > 5/2. Additionally, there is a discussion about the implications of the denominator being zero or negative.

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Homework Statement



lx/(x-2)l < 5

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


x/(x-2) < 5
x< 5x-10
10 < 4x
5/2 < x

x/(x-2) > -5
x > -5x+10
6x > 10
x > 5/3

The answer is x < 5/3 and x > 5/2
so where did I go wrong on the second one?
 
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physphys said:

Homework Statement



lx/(x-2)l < 5

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


x/(x-2) < 5
x< 5x-10
10 < 4x
5/2 < x

x/(x-2) > -5
x > -5x+10
6x > 10
x > 5/3

The answer is x < 5/3 and x > 5/2
so where did I go wrong on the second one?
For P a positive real number, \ \displaystyle \left| f(x) \right|&lt;P\ is equivalent to -P&lt;f(x)&lt;P\ .

More to the point, \displaystyle \ \frac{x}{x-2}&lt;5\ is not equivalent to \ x&lt;5(x-2)\ .\ In fact, if x-2 is negative, then you need to change the sense of the inequality .


You're much better off to write \displaystyle \ \frac{x}{x-2}&lt;5\ as \displaystyle \ \frac{x}{x-2}-5&lt;0\,,\ then write the left-hand side as a single rational expression by using a common denominator .
 
SammyS said:
For P a positive real number, \ \displaystyle \left| f(x) \right|&lt;P\ is equivalent to -P&lt;f(x)&lt;P\ .

More to the point, \displaystyle \ \frac{x}{x-2}&lt;5\ is not equivalent to \ x&lt;5(x-2)\ .\ In fact, if x-2 is negative, then you need to change the sense of the inequality .


You're much better off to write \displaystyle \ \frac{x}{x-2}&lt;5\ as \displaystyle \ \frac{x}{x-2}-5&lt;0\,,\ then write the left-hand side as a single rational expression by using a common denominator .

Okay so I simplified that farther to achieve this, 2(3x-5) / x-2 > 0. So now how do I i know if X> 5/3 OR X<5/3, also wouldn't there be an inequality in the denominator, such as x>2 or x<2 . Also how do display the mathematical operation like that on the forum?
 
physphys said:
The answer is x < 5/3 and x > 5/2
so where did I go wrong on the second one?
The answer can't possibly be "x < 5/3 and x > 5/2". There aren't any numbers that are simultaneously smaller than 5/3, and larger than 5/2.

physphys said:
Okay so I simplified that farther to achieve this, 2(3x-5) / x-2 > 0.
How did you get this? I'm assuming you are starting from x/(x - 2) - 5 < 0, and took Sammy's advice to combine the two terms on the left into a single rational expression.

Also, if 2(3x-5) / x-2 is supposed to mean this:
$$ \frac{2(3x - 5)}{x - 2}$$
then you need to write it with parentheses around the entire denominator, like so:
2(3x-5) / (x-2)
Otherwise, we would interpret this to mean this:
$$ \frac{2(3x - 5)}{x} - 2$$
physphys said:
So now how do I i know if X> 5/3 OR X<5/3, also wouldn't there be an inequality in the denominator, such as x>2 or x<2 . Also how do display the mathematical operation like that on the forum?
 
physphys said:
Okay so I simplified that farther to achieve this, 2([STRIKE] 3 [/STRIKE] 2x-5) / ( x-2 ) > 0. So now how do I i know if X> 5/3 OR X<5/3, also wouldn't there be an inequality in the denominator, such as x>2 or x<2 . Also how do display the mathematical operation like that on the forum?

So you have one expression, 2(2x-5), divided by another, (x-2), and the result is positive. How does the sign of the numerator compare to the sign of the denominator ?
 

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