Solving Equation w/ L'Hopital's Rule When x = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving an equation involving a limit as x approaches zero, specifically using L'Hopital's Rule. The equation presented is k = (pA/x)*[((V/(V-Ax))^y) - 1], and the original poster expresses difficulty in applying L'Hopital's Rule due to the form of the equation when x is substituted with zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the possibility of using L'Hopital's Rule to evaluate the limit, with some suggesting that the original poster needs to manipulate the equation to fit the rule's requirements. Others propose an alternative approach of expanding the expression in powers of x.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation of the numerator and the use of series expansion as a method to evaluate the limit, though no consensus has been reached on the preferred method.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the application of L'Hopital's Rule, particularly in recognizing the form of the equation when x approaches zero, which leads to a 0/0 indeterminate form. The original poster is also considering the implications of using series expansion as an alternative method.

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Homework Statement



I have an equation in which a term equals zero and in this case the whole equations equals zero. I know it is possible to use the L'Hopital's rule to calculate the equation but having I'm having a little trouble.

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The equation I would like to is the following:

k = \frac{pA}{x}*[(\frac{V}{V-Ax})^y - 1]

I have to solve this when x = 0;


The Attempt at a Solution



Plugging in 0 for x, results in 0, which should not be the answer. I figure it is possible to use the l'hospital's rule, but currently only my denominator has the x term which would be approaching zero. But in order to use the rule I would have to manipulate the equation for both the numerator and denominator to approach zero?
 
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Instead of using de L'Hospital's rule you can (equivalently) expand the expression in the square brackets in powers of x. This should help!
 
But if I would still like to use L'Hopital's rule, how should I proceed?
 
Differentiate the numerator wrt x

Plugging in 0 for x, results in 0
Not true. It results in 0/0 !
 
Fluidman117 said:
But if I would still like to use L'Hopital's rule, how should I proceed?

Your function is ##f(x)## is of the form
f(x) = \frac{N(x)}{x}, \;\; N(x) = pA\left[ \left(\frac{V}{V-Ax}\right)^y -1\right]
When you use l'Hospital's rule (not l'Hopital!) you compute
\lim_{x \to 0} f(x) = \frac{N'(0)}{1},
so all you are really doing is just taking the first term of the series expansion of ##N(x)##. l'Hospital and series expansion are really the same thing.
 
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