Solving Equations for t': Negative Time Confusion

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of time t' using the equation t' = (t - (vx/c))/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), resulting in a negative value of -0.00000499756 seconds. Participants clarify that negative time can occur when events are spacelike separated, meaning their order can differ in different reference frames. The confusion stems from interpreting the negative result, leading to questions about whether it implies that one event occurs before another. There is also a debate about the correct terminology regarding spacelike separation and the validity of the calculations. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of relativistic time calculations and the implications of negative values in this context.
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Homework Statement
How can the answer be negative time?
Relevant Equations
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Question:
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Using the equation for t' I got the answer -0.00000499756s (Wrong anyway)
As we know the values:
v = 0.67c m/s
x = 3900 m
t = 0.000005 s

Also how can time be negative? Does this mean that event 2 happened before the first event when t = 0?
 
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Pochen Liu said:
Problem Statement: How can the answer be negative time?
Relevant Equations: *attached

Equations:
View attachment 243341

Question:
View attachment 243342

Using the equation for t' I got the answer -0.00000499756s
As we know the values:
v = 0.67c m/s
x = 3900 m
t = 0.000005 s

How can time be negative? Does this mean that event 2 happened before the first event when t = 0?

If events in one reference frame are spacelike separated (i.e. the distance between them is greater than the time between them multiplied by ##c##), then in another frame they may happen in a different order.
 
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PeroK said:
If events in one reference frame are spacelike (i.e. the distance between them is greater than the time between them multiplied by ##c##), then in another frame they may happen in a different order.
What am I doing wrong?
t' = (0.000005 - (0.67*3900)/c)/sqrt(1-0.67^2)
t' = -0.00000499756s

A hint would be amazing! Have I fundementally misinterpreted the equation
 
Pochen Liu said:
What am I doing wrong?
t' = (0.000005 - (0.67*3900)/c)/sqrt(1-0.67^2)
t' = -0.00000499756s

A hint would be amazing! Have I fundementally misinterpreted the equation
I haven't checked the numbers but that looks correct.
 
PeroK said:
I haven't checked the numbers but that looks correct.
Sorry I forgot to mention it's wrong
 
Pochen Liu said:
Sorry I forgot to mention it's wrong

What is supposed to be the answer? I'm only on my phone, so hard to check properly.
 
They don't provide us answers sadly
 
PeroK said:
If events in one reference frame are spacelike
Jus a pet peeve about terminology. The events in themselves are not spacelike (it is not clear what that would mean), their separation is.
 
Pochen Liu said:
They don't provide us answers sadly
How do you know it's wrong?

Ps I get ##-0.5 \mu s## on my phone.
 
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