Solving Exponent Problem: Find Value of x

  • Thread starter Thread starter altamashghazi
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Exponent
AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around solving the equation x^(x^x^x^x) = 2. Participants explore taking logarithms to simplify the equation but encounter difficulties, particularly in correctly interpreting the structure of the power tower. It is clarified that the equation can be approached as an infinite power tower, leading to the conclusion that x = √2 is a viable solution. However, solving the finite power tower algebraically is deemed impossible, suggesting numerical methods as an alternative for approximation. The conversation emphasizes the challenges of finite versus infinite power towers in mathematical equations.
altamashghazi
Messages
42
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


x^X^x^x^x=2. find value of x.


Homework Equations



taking log both sides, but it makes a equation which i am not able to solve.

The Attempt at a Solution


x^(x)^4=2
x^4logx=log2. what next?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
altamashghazi said:

Homework Statement


x^X^x^x^x=2. find value of x.


Homework Equations



taking log both sides, but it makes a equation which i am not able to solve.

The Attempt at a Solution


x^(x)^4=2
x^4logx=log2. what next?

Is that

x^{x^{x^{x^x}}}

or

(((x^x)^x)^x)^x

?
 
the fist one
 
the first one
 
Was this a problem you just made up? In any case, I don't believe you'll be able to solve it using analytic functions.

If you take the log of both sides, it becomes

x^{x^{x^x}}\log x = \log 2

and not x^4\log x as you suggested. Also, the power tower isn't

x^{x^4} either. If you use Knuth's up arrow notation, then it would be equivalent to x^^5 where each ^ represents an up arrow.
 
then what should i do how to solve
 
Funnily enough, you can solve the infinite power tower quite easily, provided a solution exists, e.g.

x^{x^{x^{x^{x}...}}} = 2 \implies x^2 = 2 \implies x = \sqrt{2}

But there's no way of solving a finite power tower equation algebraically. You can probably do it numerically, though, to get an approximate solution.

EDIT: you can use ##x = \sqrt{2}## as an excellent starting guess for a numerical solver for your finite power tower problem.
 
Last edited:
Curious3141 , I am curious to know how x^x^x ... = 2 became x^2 = 2 .
 
  • #10
If x^x^x... = 2 then if we add another x at the bottom of that tower power, we haven't changed anything since the power tower is infinitely high. Or in other words,
y^x^x^x... = 2 where y=x is still equivalent to x^x^x..., so we substitute 2 for x^x^x... since that's what we assumed it is equal to, and arrive at

y^2 = 2
y=x
x^2 = 2

sambarbarian said:
Curious3141
sambarbarian said:
I am curious...
Curious tends to instigate these feelings in all of us :smile:
 
Last edited:
Back
Top