Solving for electric potential using separation of variables

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The discussion focuses on solving for electric potential using the separation of variables method in the context of two grounded concentric spherical shells with a point charge located between them. The participants address the calculation of surface charge density and the application of Laplace's equation in spherical coordinates. Key errors identified include incorrect expressions for surface charge density and powers of r in the potential equations. The importance of boundary conditions and orthogonality conditions for Legendre polynomials is emphasized as critical for accurate solutions.

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  • Understanding of Laplace's equation in spherical coordinates
  • Familiarity with surface charge density and delta functions
  • Knowledge of Legendre polynomials and their orthogonality properties
  • Basic principles of electrostatics and electric potential
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Homework Statement


Given two two grounded concentric spherical shells with radii a,b (a<b) and a point charge q between them at a<r=R<b find:

1.The surface charge density of the point charge using the delta function, assume the charge is on the z axis

2.By using the separation of variables method find the electric potential between the shells.

Homework Equations


I have no idea how to insert mathematical equation in the forum but the most relevant equations are the jump discontinuity in the orthogonal part of the field and the general form of the solution of the Laplace equations in spherical coordinates

The Attempt at a Solution



In my first try I tried to solve for the whole volume at once which produced contradictions, in my second attempt I divided the volume and solved for each volume separately but I got stuck on the orthogonality condition for the Legendre polynomials, the precise attempt is shown in the images

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Your second approach should work. However, I noticed a few errors:

Page 1: Your expression for σ is incorrect. You want to write a surface charge density for the surface r = R. Thus, ∫σdA = q for this surface. There is no integration over r here. Think about the expression for dA for this surface.

Page 4: Your powers of r in ##\Phi_I## and ##\Phi_{II}## don't appear to be correct. For example, see eq. 14 here http://www.luc.edu/faculty/dslavsk/courses/phys301/classnotes/laplacesequation.pdf

Page 4: Check the signs in the equation at the bottom of the page for the boundary condition involving R+ and R-. Recall that ##\vec{E} = -\nabla \Phi##. ( I don't understand the equation in the middle of the page, just before "in Volume II".)

Page 7: You forgot the ##\delta_{l,l'}## that occurs when doing the integral on the left at the top of the page.

There is another boundary condition that you can use. What can you say about the continuity of ##\Phi## at r = R when ##\theta \neq 0##?
 

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