Solving for F: A Visual Approach

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The discussion focuses on finding the vector F from a given image, with initial attempts yielding incorrect results. The first proposed solution, \(\frac{-y}{(x^2+y^2)} \vec{i} + \frac{x}{(x^2+y^2)} \vec{j}\), was noted to have the wrong magnitude, which should be 4r instead of 1/r. Subsequent attempts to correct the magnitude by dividing by 4 were also incorrect, as they did not achieve the desired magnitude of 4r. The final correct expression for F is \(-4y\vec{i} + 4x\vec{j}\). This solution aligns with the required properties of the vector field.
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Homework Statement



http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7535/38187200.th.jpg

I need to find F from the picture above

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The Attempt at a Solution



My answer so far is:

\frac{-y}{(x^2+y^2)} \vec{i} + \frac{x}{(x^2+y^2)} \vec{j}

is this correct?
 
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No. The magnitude is at a distance r from the z-axis should be 4r. recall that r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}. Note that your "answer so far" has the properties depicted except that it has magnitude 1/r at a distance r from the z-axis.
 
so it should then be:

\frac{-y}{4(x^2+y^2)} \vec{i} + \frac{x}{4(x^2+y^2)} \vec{j}
 
Does \sqrt{\left(\frac{-y}{4(x^2+y^2)}\right)^2 + \left(\frac{x}{4(x^2+y^2)}\right)^2}=4\sqrt{x^2+y^2}?

No. Look, -y\vec{i}+x\vec{j} is a vector field whose vectors point in all the right directions, make them the proper length.
 
I have no clue... I've tried -4y\vec{i} + 4x\vec{j} and it seems to be wrong as well
 
-EquinoX- said:

Homework Statement



http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7535/38187200.th.jpg

I need to find F from the picture above

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



My answer so far is:

\frac{-y}{(x^2+y^2)} \vec{i} + \frac{x}{(x^2+y^2)} \vec{j}

is this correct?

benorin said:
No. The magnitude is at a distance r from the z-axis should be 4r. recall that r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}. Note that your "answer so far" has the properties depicted except that it has magnitude 1/r at a distance r from the z-axis.

-EquinoX- said:
so it should then be:

\frac{-y}{4(x^2+y^2)} \vec{i} + \frac{x}{4(x^2+y^2)} \vec{j}
As benorin said, your first attempt had magnitude 1/r and it should be 4r. For your second attempt you just divided by 4. That makes the magnitude 1/4r, not 4r. You need to multiply your first answer by 4r2= 4(x2+ y2).
 
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so it's just simply:

-4y\vec{i} + 4x\vec{j}
 

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