Solving for Flux Using Enclosed Charge

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The discussion focuses on calculating the total electric flux through a cylinder due to two line charges with given charge densities. The initial approach involved determining the electric field but faced challenges due to its non-constancy across the cylinder's surface. The correct method emphasizes using the enclosed charge, which can be derived from the charge densities and the cylinder's height. Clarification was sought on whether the method for finding enclosed charge varies with different fields, confirming that the relationship between electric flux and enclosed charge remains consistent. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding electric field behavior in flux calculations.
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Homework Statement



https://www.smartphysics.com/Content/Media/Images/EM/03/h3_lineD.png

Where, λ1 = -3.2 μC/cm, λ2 = 9.6 μC/cm, a = 8.5 cm and h = 11.4 cm. a/2 = 4.25 cm.

What is the total flux that passes through the surface of the cylinder?

Homework Equations



E = 2kλ/r
\Phi = E*A = qenclosed/\epsilono

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing I did was solve for the total electric field of the two line charges, which is 338823529.411765 N/C. After this, the next step would be to simply multiply by the surface area of the cylinder. However, this doesn't work because the electric field is not constant throughout the surface of the cylinder.

My next step was to try and solve it using the enclosed charge, but since I have only been given the charge densities of each line, I have no clue how to figure out enclosed charge. Is there a specific method as to how you can do this?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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InertialRef said:

Homework Statement



https://www.smartphysics.com/Content/Media/Images/EM/03/h3_lineD.png

Where, λ1 = -3.2 μC/cm, λ2 = 9.6 μC/cm, a = 8.5 cm and h = 11.4 cm. a/2 = 4.25 cm.

What is the total flux that passes through the surface of the cylinder?

Homework Equations



E = 2kλ/r
\Phi = E*A = qenclosed/\epsilono

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing I did was solve for the total electric field of the two line charges, which is 338823529.411765 N/C. After this, the next step would be to simply multiply by the surface area of the cylinder. However, this doesn't work because the electric field is not constant throughout the surface of the cylinder.

My next step was to try and solve it using the enclosed charge, but since I have only been given the charge densities of each line, I have no clue how to figure out enclosed charge. Is there a specific method as to how you can do this?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

As you have noted, the electric field is not constant on the surface, so it is not AE. But the total flux is always equal to the enclosed charge divided by ε0: you need to calculate that only from the λ-s and length h.
 
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ehild said:
As you have noted, the electric field is not constant on the surface, so it is not AE. But the total flux is always equal to the enclosed charge divided by ε0: you need to calculate that only from the λ-s and length h.

Alright, thank you. :) I think I got it now.

I do have one more question though. Is the method used to find the enclosed charge different depending upon what type of field you are dealing with?
 
I do not get you. It is valid for the relation between electric flux and enclosed charge.

ehild
 
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