Solving for Pressure in Four Cylinder Thermodynamic Problem

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The discussion focuses on solving a thermodynamic problem involving four cylinders, specifically finding pressure and volume. The formula P=F/A is initially used to determine pressure, but the user struggles with applying it correctly. A force balance is suggested for state 2, and the process type is identified as isobaric, as pressure remains constant despite changes in volume and temperature. The user contemplates using the equations P1V1=P2V2 and PV=nRT to find volume, particularly noting that state 4 requires the latter due to temperature changes. Clarifications on these equations and their applications are sought to resolve the user's confusion.
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At state 2, when the mass is in equilibrium, you need to do a force balance. Remember F=PA. Then look at the temperatures of states 1 and 2. What type of process is that?
 
Thanks ! i have managed to solve a and b but now i am stuck on c I believe the answer to c is isobaric, because P=F/A is not affected by the growing volume nor the temperature. and it can't be isothermal because the temperature is changing. and I don't quite understand how adiabatic works.
 
Ok my answer to the volume are wrong, do I use P1V1=P2V2 or do I use PV=nRT equation ?
 
can anyone help please ? I've figured out pressure, but I'm stuck on how to find volume
 
I think you should use P1V1=P2V2, that is supposed to work when T=constant.
 
yeah I was considering that. And to find the volume in state 4, I would have to use PV=nRT correct ? since T isn't constant ?
 
alex1261 said:
yeah I was considering that. And to find the volume in state 4, I would have to use PV=nRT correct ? since T isn't constant ?

From state 3 to 4, it looks like T=100°C for both 3 and 4. So while you can use PV=nRt at 4, you should be able to use P3V3=P4V4 as well
 
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