Solving for sinΘ in sinΘ=sin2Θ

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The equation sinΘ = sin2Θ can be transformed using the double-angle formula to sinΘ = 2sinΘcosΘ. This leads to the equation sinΘ(1 - 2cosΘ) = 0, indicating that either sinΘ = 0 or 1 - 2cosΘ = 0 must hold true. Dividing by sinΘ is discouraged as it risks omitting solutions where sinΘ = 0. The solutions are found at angles where sinΘ = 0 and where cosΘ = 1/2, leading to multiple valid angles for Θ. It is important to include all integer multiples of 2π to capture all possible solutions.
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Homework Statement



sinΘ=sin2Θ

Homework Equations



Double-angle forumla...
sin2Θ=2sinΘcosΘ

sinΘ=2sinΘcosΘ
sinΘ

The Attempt at a Solution


sinΘ=2sinΘcosΘ
sinΘ-2sinΘcosΘ=0
sinΘ(1-2cosΘ)=0

Now I'm getting stuck because 1-2cosΘ is not an identity of any sort.

Any help would be appreciated...thanks!
 
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beingandfluffy said:
sinΘ=2sinΘcosΘ

Instead of subtracting; what about dividing both sides by sinΘ?


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beingandfluffy said:
sinΘ(1-2cosΘ)=0
You could divide right here, too. (zero divided by anything* is still zero)


*anything except zero
 
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I'll try that!
Edit:
AH I see it
 
Nathanael said:
Instead of subtracting; what about dividing both sides by sinΘ?
This is not a good idea. Dividing by sinθ causes you to lose solutions for which sinθ = 0.
Nathanael said:
Edit:

You could divide right here, too. (zero divided by anything* is still zero)


*anything except zero
 
Actually, your way is better
beingandfluffy said:
sinΘ(1-2cosΘ)=0
It is better to set it up like this because this shows all of the solutions. (I overlooked this in my first post.)When is sinΘ(1-2cosΘ) equal to zero? (There are two solutions)
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Mark44 said:
This is not a good idea. Dividing by sinθ causes you to lose solutions for which sinθ = 0.
Yes I just realized this :redface: thank you

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Mark44 said:
There are LOTS more than two solutions...
I had a feeling you would point this out too :biggrin: I couldn't think of a concise way to say it. (I meant two ways)
Maybe I should stay out of the math section :-p
 
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beingandfluffy said:

Homework Statement



sinΘ=sin2Θ

Homework Equations



Double-angle forumla...
sin2Θ=2sinΘcosΘ

sinΘ=2sinΘcosΘ
sinΘ

The Attempt at a Solution


sinΘ=2sinΘcosΘ
sinΘ-2sinΘcosΘ=0
sinΘ(1-2cosΘ)=0

Now I'm getting stuck because 1-2cosΘ is not an identity of any sort.
Doesn't need to be. You're on the right track. If the product above equals zero, that means that either sinθ = 0 or 1 - 2cosθ = 0.

beingandfluffy said:
Any help would be appreciated...thanks!
 
Nathanael said:
Actually, your way is better

It is better to set it up like this because this shows all of the solutions. (I overlooked this in my first post.)


When is sinΘ(1-2cosΘ) equal to zero? (There are two solutions)
There are LOTS more than two solutions...
Nathanael said:
edit:

Yes I just realized this :redface: thank you
 
beingandfluffy said:

Homework Statement



sinΘ=sin2Θ

Homework Equations



Double-angle forumla...
sin2Θ=2sinΘcosΘ

sinΘ=2sinΘcosΘ
sinΘ

The Attempt at a Solution


sinΘ=2sinΘcosΘ
sinΘ-2sinΘcosΘ=0
sinΘ(1-2cosΘ)=0

Now I'm getting stuck because 1-2cosΘ is not an identity of any sort.

Any help would be appreciated...thanks!
You have the product of two functions of Θ. The result is zero when either sinΘ or 1-2cosΘ is zero.
This occurs at what angles? (As for 1-2cosΘ=0, just isolate the angle. Do you see how to do that?)
 
Let's see...
I could do sinΘ=0 or 1-2cosΘ=0
sinΘ=0
Θ= (pi)/2
1-2cosΘ=0
2cosΘ=-1
cosΘ=-1/-2
cosΘ=1/2
Θ=5(pi)/3 or (pi)/3
I see that if I do it this way, instead of dividing out the sine, I capture one more solution.
Very helpful...thank you!
 
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Since there are no restrictions on θ (or at least none shown in your OP), you should add integer multiples of 2π to each of your solutions to capture all possible solutions.
 
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beingandfluffy said:
Let's see...
I could do sinΘ=0 or 1-2cosΘ=0
sinΘ=0
Θ= (pi)/2
1-2cosΘ=0
2cosΘ=-1
cosΘ=-1/-2
cosΘ=1/2
Θ=5(pi)/3 or (pi)/3
I see that if I do it this way, instead of dividing out the sine, I capture one more solution.
Very helpful...thank you!

Watch out, ## \sin(\theta) =0 ## at ##\theta = \ldots, - \pi, 0 , \pi, \ldots ##,

not at ##\theta = \pi/2##!
 
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Watch out some more !
Let's see...
I could do sinΘ=0 or 1-2cosΘ=0
sinΘ=0
Θ= (pi)/2
1-2cosΘ=0
2cosΘ=-1
cosΘ=-1/-2
cosΘ=1/2
Θ=5(pi)/3 or (pi)/3
I see that if I do it this way, instead of dividing out the sine, I capture one more solution.
sinΘ(1-2cosΘ)=0 ##\Leftrightarrow ## sinΘ=0 ##\vee ## (1-2cosΘ)=0

First one: sinΘ=0 ##\Leftrightarrow ## sinΘ=sin(0) ##\Leftrightarrow## Θ = 0 + 2n∏ ##\vee ## Θ = ∏ - 0 + 2n∏ ##\Leftrightarrow## Θ = n∏ (with n an integer)

Now you do the second one. And don't write 1-2cosΘ=0 on one line and 2cosΘ=-1 on the next !

Being meticulous while learning this pays off all through the rest of your life (and that of possible pupils/students you might have later on :smile:)

By the way, welcome to PF !
 
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